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May 7, 2017

Hospitals see a lot of once gone diseases come back unchecked due to not vaccinating children. Vaccines are safe. Hugs

Filed under: Children, Facts, Health, News, Reason — Scottie @ 10:08


  1. We have just had an outbreak of measles in Johannesburg due to people not vaccinating their children. The measles vaccination is provided free to everyone at local clinics so there is no excuse what so ever.

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    Comment by robbiesinspiration — May 7, 2017 @ 11:34

    • I agree. A couple wealthy people pushed a totally debunked anti-vax thing, and now people who are too lazy to investigate it, too right wing to do anything but listen to fox, and too religious to think that they need science when they have god, all think they can just do as they please and put everyone’s kids at risk. I think it is horrible. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 13:20

  2. We did all vaccines except the gardisil. Too many injured with that one of people we have known crashing their immune system. Our doctor actually advised against it. Otherwise. We are vaccinated!

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    Comment by bethanyk — May 7, 2017 @ 19:03

    • Thank you Bethany. I am all for following doctors orders. I am sorry this is so late getting back to you. I value you and your opinions, and wanted to make sure what I was saying was true. A lot of time has gone by since I was interested in this vaccine as I am way to old for it to do me any good. 😦

      I went to the wikipedia page
      ( I only looked at the reported adverse effects that had medical citations as it is too easy to change stuff and make it false on wiki pages. ) to see if my information was still current and for the most part it was. There were side effects, some serious, but understandable with a sample size over 23 million. There were four deaths. If you were one of the four it wouldn’t matter to you that millions of others did not have a serious reaction, you did. IN fact, as I read it, I was at first very upset over 19 pulmonary embolisms. Then I looked up the rate in the population and found it much higher, so the number of people who had it and the vaccine had less events than the general population. Bethany the vaccination does have a small risk as do all of them. Give out 23 million of anything and someone is going to have a negative reaction. I am not sure your doctor’s advice is current for today. It may have been something they were studying when you were in the age range of 14-18. They did not have it for my age group, and it would have benefited so many millions of people that I would have had no trouble with accepting it. I do remember when it came out and the Governor of Texas Rick Perry tried to have it part of the must have school vaccines. The push back was almost entirely from churches and people who felt their child would suddenly become a sex fiend if they got the shot. Some people said their child wouldn’t need the vaccine as they wouldn’t have sex until they were married sometime in their 18 to 22 years old as good boys and girls do ( you know it is only those sinful godless brats who have sexual thoughts and feelings before the magic day they turn 18 and move into adulthood ) and they would only have sex with their married partner who of course had only in all their life had sex with the one they married so they would never get the dreaded disease anyway. Which is just silly and very unrealistic.

      So as I look over it all now, I would recommend it for the age group it is designed for with no qualms. What it protects against is so serious I would pay for myself ( which I can’t due to age ) and my child to be protected.

      Be well. Thanks for the conversation. Hugs


      Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 20:52

      • I read much of what you read. Her Doctor had seen adverse white counts after the vaccine so stopped giving it. But also we are compromised due to lyme disease and no one with lyme disease is advised to get certain vaccines. This one would protect against certain forms of cervical cancer. But one would need to be sexually active to be even exposed to it. So if one is for sure NOT, then no need to risk it for the immuneocompromised. One day it will be reconsidered. I happen to know one girl who it killed. Of all people. she had underlying health conditions one of them being lyme disease.
        As for me….I was not able to get any vaccines this year that were new because of lyme disease. It was odd actually. I couldnt get even the flu shot because she said it would serious if i did. So i did not. But getting the flu could kill me with my muscle disease.
        It all must be weighed out! For sure. Hugs to you.
        But to hear of the measles outbreak..unreal. And also we irradiated polio because of the vaccine!!!!
        Now as for chicken pox. It is a live vaccine. I have never had chicken pox so my daughter couldnt get the vaccine or she could actually give it to me. So she didnt get that vaccine either

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        Comment by bethanyk — May 7, 2017 @ 21:08

        • Hello Bethany you are correct. I agree. I also have never had the chicken pox, so there were PTs in the ICU I was not allowed into their rooms. Shingles are one of the things. I do agree with following your doctor if you trust them. I wouldn’t ever say I am as skilled as a trained and educated person in their field. Only one thing I would add. I may be wrong but I can’t count more than maybe three teenages I knew growing up who had not had sex while still a minor. And I went to a church boarding school. They found ways to have it, and if they couldn’t find the gender they were interested in, they did it with their gender and found ways to excuse it to themselves. The situation of you and your family is well thought out and I would do as you did if I was as well educated as you on the subject. I bet many people and families are in the same position as your family is. OK I see you sent me more comments, I am going to get another plate of baked Ziti that Ron made for me today and eat as I read what you wrote. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 21:17

          • Im stuck on the baked ziti!!!!!! Oh i would loveeee some baked ziti right now!!!

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            Comment by bethanyk — May 7, 2017 @ 22:47

            • 🙂 It is great. He made a smaller batch for me than he use to, I am not eating as much and he is on a diet that doesn’t include pastas. SO he made it in both a 8 x 8 pan and then several mini meatloaf pans. He is going to make me so other pasta stuff this week for when he is working. See I am on no weight on my left leg per the ortho surgeon and I can’t cook. Ron has been pre-making meals for me for a couple years now because of the horrible pain it causes to stand to cook and carry stuff. Again he is so grand he doesn’t get upset. He even put his desk chair in my office, took my wheelchair and gave it a good washing, and dried it all off. I have to go tomorrow to my doctor. I use to go with just my cane but the new instructions means I have to take the chair. Ah well, it could be worse. At least I have a chair to use. 🙂 Hugs


              Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 22:55

              • What a sweetheart of a man. Barry will clean my chair for me too. They get very dirty being out in the parking lot and road and doc offices. My husband brought me lunch today and yesterday too. It is very hard for me to cook and stand but I have to do it for riley’s special diet so he then spoils me with extras!!!
                What a great idea to make you meals ahead of time for the week to heat up. You know my husband never complains either. It is nice to be loved isnt it.

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                Comment by bethanyk — May 8, 2017 @ 00:03

                • Yes. Very much. People like Barry and Ron make the world a much better place. Hugs

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                  Comment by Scottie — May 8, 2017 @ 08:18

      • I agree that people avoided getting it because they thought they would be admitting their child would have sex. But it was created to prevent forms of cancer and lets be honest here…not all sex is consentual !!!!

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        Comment by bethanyk — May 7, 2017 @ 21:13

        • Oh Bethany, I am so sorry. I was thinking of that myself, how several of the people I was forced to have sex with were sexually active. Before I had sexual thoughts of my own . I never thought how triggering this conversation was for you. We can stop if it is in any way upsetting you. I think far too much of you to want you distressed. Sorry. Let me know. Hugs


          Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 21:20

          • It is ok. Thank you for being thoughtful. It just popped into my head that it would protect assault victims.

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            Comment by bethanyk — May 7, 2017 @ 21:22

            • You are always so thoughtful, kind, and sensitive to others. I am amazed with all you have suffered, with all you have to deal with both mentally and emotionally, you still find it in yourself to worry about others. Thank you for being you. Hugs


              Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 21:35

      • I keep rambling on this same post but thoughts keep coming to me. What is total BS is that they have come up with this vaccine to prevent cancer and YET they have now decided only to cover women’s pap smears which screen for cancer, every three years. By the time they find it you are dead basically. Its absurd.

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        Comment by bethanyk — May 7, 2017 @ 21:15

        • Hi Bethany, it is OK we can talk as long as you want on any subject. I am eating supper as we talk. Ron washed my wheelchair so I am using his desk chair and so he is doing my running for me as it dries. 🙂

          I so agree with you again. I have always believed females were being marginalized in society and with medical care. Think on the fact that some doctors, hospitals, and pharmacies will deny birth control to women yet fund viagra and other boner medications for men. The state and even some federal congress members are trying to force a woman to get her husband’s or other male figure to give permission for medical services to her body, but men are not required to do the reverse at all. There are other things I could mention, but the fact is a person’s bodies are theirs and theirs alone to control. Women are not second class persons nor are they in anyway less than a male, and they shouldn’t be subject to restrictions not placed on males.

          Oh the vaccine also covers some herpes and warts doesn’t it? Preventing cancer is by far enough but for those reading us who don’t know about it, we should mention it , right? OK, got to get a soda. BRB. Hugs


          Comment by Scottie — May 7, 2017 @ 21:33

  3. I lost my daughter to her 1st dtap vaccine at 8 weeks old. the acellular pertussis caused her brain to swell & she passed away 3 months later so not so sure they’re all that “safe”.


    Comment by Ashley Tadlock — May 8, 2017 @ 14:49

    • Ashley I am sorry you lost your daughter. I can not imagine the grief that causes you. However you are equating the vaccine not being safe for your daughter, which your personal doctor should have caught, with the vaccine being unsafe for anyone. As Bethany explained for her and her daughter their doctor felt their systems were such that the vaccine we were talking about would present a danger and so they did not receive it. I do believe in and agree with listening to the advice of your physician. I know this will not help you feel better in any way, but the article I referenced talking about that vaccine with Bethany showed only four deaths in over 23 million vaccinations. The fact is the vaccine was safe for millions of people. Sorry for your loss. Hugs


      Comment by Scottie — May 8, 2017 @ 15:07

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