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April 6, 2018

Taxpayer funding for religious schools that teach only religion.

Filed under: Children, Criminal, Economics, Harm, News, Political, Questions, Religion — Tags: , , , , , — Scottie @ 14:12

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/04/05/ultra-orthodox-jewish-schools-in-nyc-keep-failing-and-things-just-got-worse/

This is stunning.  These schools receive … “hundreds of millions of dollars in government funding, in part through federal programs like Title 1 and Head Start.”   They leave kids unable to read, do math, speak english, basicly unable to function in anything but their ultra religious societies.  It is horrible.

A yeshiva graduate, Moster got serious about raising educational quality for Jewish kids when he went to a secular college and realized to his embarrassment that he was unfamiliar with all sorts of concepts that other students had no problem with. For instance, he’d never heard the word “molecule,” nor did he possess any concept of the word’s meaning. For a long time, he considered himself “too crippled to make it through.”

 

At the 39 [worst] yeshivas [in New York City], children ages 7 to 13 receive only an hour and a half of English and math instruction combined four days per week. Other secular subjects are not taught at all, and English instruction for boys stops at age 13, the letter states. (Most Hasidic Jews speak Yiddish at home, and nearly a third of students in Jewish schools in New York City speak limited English, according to the Department of Education.)

 

He describes how a physician he knows in Borough Park in Brooklyn, a heavily Hasidic neighborhood,

… often sees adult male patients who can barely communicate to her what ails them. “It’s not just that they’re like immigrants, barely able to speak the language,” she told me. “It’s also a lack of knowledge of basic physiology. They can barely name their own body parts.”

 

 

12 Comments »

  1. Interesting to see Jewish do this as well as Christians. And you can imagine fundamentalist Islam. I do feel this is the goal of all religions and why here the big push is privatizing our schools, which will be religious schools. It’s all about power and control through religion. It’s very dangerous and I feel we are being drug back into the dark ages.

    We (meaning the intellectuals, scientists, academics and secular people of the world) are feared because we can’t be controlled as easily and we represent a threat, not to society , but to to them.

    It’s an irony to me that the so called end times may come, all right, but not due to any “sin” and the fantasy of an everlasting life, but due to gullibility, ignorance, fear and runaway religious fanaticism.

    I feel, we (as above) are the last hope for a society that progresses into the future in relative peace and prosperity for all and yet we are the enemy.

    The best quote of all time is that “man is his own worst enemy.”

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    Comment by maryplumbago — April 7, 2018 @ 08:07

    • You said it so well, far better than I did. I agree . Thank you. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2018 @ 08:43

    • It’s also hard to figure out how to solve this problem. Ultra-Orthodox tend to view anything secular with suspicion. They could care less what the modern world, the other branches of Judaism, and even Modern Orthodox think about them. They live in a mostly insular world, the modern-day shtetl, although I would have to disagree with you about generalizing all types of religion in relation to public schools. I don’t their goal is to “privatize” public schools; they simply want nothing to do with secular public schools in the first place and to live isolated. It’s really a shame.

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      Comment by consoledreader — April 7, 2018 @ 12:55

      • Hello Consoledreader. Welcome again. However you are wrong on the privatization point. Betsy Devos is the secretary of education. She spent years and a good chunk of her family fortune trying to force privatization , public funding of church schools, and forcing god into public schools. in MI. Through her efforts the the schools system is in deep distress in MI. MY other problem is with the fact that this group plans for their students from their failed religious only schools to be on the public relief systems. It says in the article that they plan on it in all their budgets. So that is a couple reasons why this privilege must be taken from them. It is a form of child abuse. Hugs

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        Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2018 @ 13:32

        • Well, in my response I wasn’t speaking about Betsy Devos or what right-wing Christians are trying to do. I agree many of them are are trying to accomplish that goal.

          In my comment about privatization, I meant only the goal of Ultra-Orthodox Jews. I don’t get the impression that they want to privatize public education; they want to avoid it altogether and live in isolation.

          I completely agree they shouldn’t be using public relief funds.

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          Comment by consoledreader — April 7, 2018 @ 13:57

          • Oh sorry I took your comment as for the whole education system and the religious goals for it. Be well. Hugs

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            Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2018 @ 14:25

  2. P.S……article is an eye opener

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    Comment by maryplumbago — April 7, 2018 @ 08:13

    • It also is scary. A bunch of young adults unable to go on to higher education and unable to get jobs with no birth control marrying young so they need tons of assistance. Why do people complain about food and housing assist think it is OK when religious people need it. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2018 @ 08:42

  3. The other irony of all this is how this group is the complete opposite of the larger Jewish population who represent one of the best educated populations in the world! You think this would show them that they it’s not like they have to give up their entire religious background or cultural identity to learn English or math or science at a proficient level! That’s what makes it all the more frustrating, along with the fact that it’s abusive to not give their children the appropriate level of secular education.

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    Comment by consoledreader — April 7, 2018 @ 14:18

    • Again I agree with you. I am at a loss to understand it. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2018 @ 14:27

  4. Dear scotttie,
    yeshiwa schools should not be the problem to deal with.
    How many many student do they have compared to the majority of the normal school-system, This is just a distraction from the far greater problem of Christians influencing your school-System in general.

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    Comment by miles — April 8, 2018 @ 13:27

    • I disagree Miles. In New York where this group is from they are very large and have a lot of influence. They are costing the taxpayer a huge amount in public assistance to both the schools and the kids who come out of them. It is a tax on the non-religious to pay for their religion. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 8, 2018 @ 14:21


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