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August 26, 2018

The Victims of Religion

Filed under: Atheism, Children, Harm, News, Questions, Reason, Religion — Scottie @ 09:46

These are just a few of the far too many victims of religion.   Please check out the web site.  https://plus.google.com/collection/MCl9FB  Hugs

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  1. Incredible miracles of faith. Sickening.

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    Comment by jim- — August 26, 2018 @ 12:01

    • Agreed Jim. I can not see how these people feel they have the moral high ground. I also wonder if it was the parent going through the agony these kids did how fast would they demand medical treatment and relief? Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 26, 2018 @ 12:49

  2. Many of the “faithful” will say these are isolated cases when, in fact, they occur all to often. And they say atheists have it all wrong … SMH

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    Comment by Nan — August 26, 2018 @ 12:15

    • I know. It is sickening that the parents in many states can not even be charged with a crime for the deaths of the children. Religious freedom now being the great “do despicable stuff and get out of responsibility” rule. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 26, 2018 @ 12:49

  3. The bible is a murderous book, especially in the hands of stupid creationists.

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    Comment by Miles — August 26, 2018 @ 12:35

    • Yes it is. Sadly it is mostly children that pay the price. Also it angers me that in many states the parents can not be charged with a crime because they can claim religion and religious freedom. That is wrong. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 26, 2018 @ 12:44

  4. Meanwhile, here is a total list of people killed by murderers who said atheism made them do it:
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    That is all.

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    Comment by badtux99 — August 26, 2018 @ 17:44

    • In case anyone missed Badtux99 point which is a great one, there is no list. The list is empty as no one makes that claim. I agree Badtux99 and thank you for the comment. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 26, 2018 @ 17:50

  5. Religion is poisonous and it is a form of mental illness

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    Comment by maryplumbago — August 26, 2018 @ 17:59

    • I agree with you, in its mildest form it promotes dependence on an imaginary being. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 26, 2018 @ 18:01

    • If you are right, then we can conclude beyond any doubt, that the bible infects creationists with mental illness. and as all creationist read the fairytale-bible, they are all infected with mental illness. 😉 BTW. the catholic kidfu..er-priests around world are the best proof we could have.

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      Comment by miles — August 27, 2018 @ 10:11

      • There is something wrong with the priests and there is something wrong with the way they are required to live. It is not normal. Hugs

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        Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 10:15

        • Sorry Scottie, I think this time you are not right. I think, it is just the other way round.: Them priests star to become priests because they have two dispositions in their genes: gay and a craving for power and domination. May be that this craving for power and domination they are driven by, is set free by the catholic religion , we talked about that phenomenon.
          It would not help them to have a normal life cause to be gay and craving for power and domination doesn’t fit in a normal live and also not in a gay life. If them priests lacked the craving for power and domination, they would just be gay and able to control their urges – just as I am. I am really lucky that I have no cravings for power and domination in me. – and never had.

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          Comment by miles — August 27, 2018 @ 13:02

          • Miles I do disagree. There is no evidence the majority of priests that rape children are gay. The fact is the priest have more access to boys and also they have no normal outlet for sexual desires. Add to that the majority have been indoctrinated to the church since they were young giving them a really warped view of sex and relationships. The last thing is they know that other priests have gotten a pass on such acts before. Hugs

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            Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 13:09

            • I tend to agree with you, Scottie. It’s their “no sex” vow that does them in … and the altar boys are way too accessible. Just one more idiotic belief that religion promotes.

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              Comment by Nan — August 27, 2018 @ 13:16

              • Hey, you can’t see it with a priests eyes. I can. cause I love kids. And I have grown up with a catholic education. — and I am gay. What drove me away from that catholic education, was their acceptance of power and domination. Sorry, but you can’t see these problems with just normal gay eyes. The priests that vow, not to merry – you see – it does not help them from craving for power and domination. This craving is also often directed to girls – not only to boys — but it is directed to kids and to the power of domination.

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                Comment by miles — August 27, 2018 @ 13:41

                • Yes Miles I agree part of it is power over another. Rape is not so much a sexual act as a control and power act. The problem I have is that you add gay plus power to equal child rape. I say no to that equation because as you say the sex of the child makes no difference. This is simply people with a great frustration and the controlling dominance over young children taking their frustration and lack of normal sexual expression out on the bodies of the children. Because they can and get away with it. Hugs

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                  Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 13:47

                  • It has nothing to do with normal sexual expression – or the lack of it, dear scotty, it has to do with genes and what is in them. It is not like cause and effect; genes give something like disposition, and there is not just one disposition to be “gay” as well as there is not one disposition to be “straight”: in both sexual orientations are numerous dispositions of “gay” and numerous dispositions of “straight”, — and somewhere in between I find me myself, I would find you yourself — and somewhere in between those gene-mixes there are them priests and they know nothing – completely nothing – about theie sexuality, because their religious education has taken away – if any- knowledge about their sexual orientation/disposition. Them priests are therefore just left with their urges. And that makes them what they are: Murderers or at least Childabusers.

                    All the same is valid for parents being creationists, that kill their offsprings as murderers – for purely religious reasons.
                    Please dont stick to 3 sexes: There are numerous, cause brain and genes interact continuously.
                    If we were able, we could make fingerprints of them any momentand they would differ, cause we are neither driven only by our brains , nor are we driven just by our libido or call it sexual urges. 🙂 That is why sex never is the same.
                    Thats what I think.
                    hugs miles

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                    Comment by miles — August 27, 2018 @ 15:44

                    • Miles I agree that sexuality is a spectrum, as is gender expression. I also agree with you that the church has interfered with the sexual expressions of the priests. We are saying the same thing there. I agree that the way priests are expected to live twists their sexual expression, it leads to deep frustrations. The only thing we disagree on is that I do not think the majority of priests who molest children do so because their place on the sexual spectrum is in the range of desire for preteen or teen children. Some maybe for sure. But the majority are simply using what is available to them and what they can control. Think of it this way. Most of the men in prison who have same sex interactions are not gay. The only way they can have sex with someone is to have it with their same sex. So they do. But I don’t think they do it because they are gay. They do it because it is what is available to them and what the ones in charge can force the others to do. Just as the children raped by priests are not expressing their sexuality , neither are the ones forced by others to summit in prisons to sexual assault. Again I think if the priests had normal ways to have sex, like dating or marrying, they wouldn’t go for children. The same with person who engaged in same sex in a male prison would go back to having opposite sex when not in prison.

                      I think we are very close to each other in what we are trying to say. Thanks Miles. Hugs

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                      Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 16:01

                    • my dearfriend: It is never good to answer a question in the form of a religion.

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                      Comment by miles — August 27, 2018 @ 17:25

                    • I think we are on the same page my dear friend. Even if we disagree it doesn’t change our friendship. That is always good. I think it is a language barrier Miles. You are a native German speaker who uses English to talk to me. I can not speak German. I think we are saying the same things but in a slightly different way. Best wishes, and hugs

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                      Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 17:28

              • That is how I see it also Nan. Hugs

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                Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 13:48

  6. Heartbreaking, especially the littlest kids. They must have wondered what the hell was going on as they were killed by the very people who should have been protecting them. But those people had something deeply wrong in the brain, a mind parasite capable of twisting behavior into something monstrous, like something out of the most horrific science fiction.

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    Comment by Infidel753 — August 26, 2018 @ 18:47

    • Yes, they had something wrong in the brain, a belief in an imaginary friend so strong it over came reality and caused them to do something horrendous. As much as it upset me I made my self read every panel on the web site they came from. I really had to find my center after as I was so angry. Not one of us would be there in person and let those children suffer. We would have acted. Yet in the US today there are parents doing the same thing to children in the name of religion and they wont suffer any consequences if those children die. The country needs to have priorities. If the health and safety of children can not come first then nothing makes sense. If the safety and health of children has to take a back seat to religion and gun ownership rights, then those people can not claim the moral high ground. And yes I have a real hard time emotionally with this subject. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 26, 2018 @ 19:27

  7. I stopped referring to myself as “Christian” because of those who impugn the nature and ways of Christ, who did no harm to anyone and said to follow him. In fact, many of those who call themselves Christian consider me a heretic because I only look to Jesus Christ for how to treat others and live.

    On a personal note, I’ve experienced having at least one friend who was sexually abused by her pastor father beginning in her teens. She asked her parents about sex, and her father’s response was to have sex with her on (his justification), to prevent her from being hurt by “horny” boys.

    Another friend who is a member of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah’s Witnesses), and who I disagree with highly on certain of their doctrines and cultism, raised her son and daughter in that denomination. It is my belief that the strict judgment and unforgiveness they teach is what lead to her son sexually abusing children. He thought they were safe and would be quiet.

    There are other experiences as well, but suffice it to say that all people are subject to the same things it excuses run the gambit. It’s what is in our hearts and minds that refuses to visit horrible things on others, and that not because of ourselves, but because of our respect and love for others. Respect and love for others does not require belief in any religion.

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    Comment by Xena — August 27, 2018 @ 18:02

    • Dear Xena I am sorry for all the abuse suffered. I am a victim of childhood sexual and physical abuse. Religion did not have a part in my abuse, but it did not prevent it.

      As an adult I have no problem with people having a faith. I have friends who have the Wicca faith, friends who have other faiths. The difference is the do not try to use their faith to condemn me or my life style. Far too many religions do.

      I agree with you respect and love for others do not require a religion. I hope you are not feeling like you are missing out because you do not belong to an organized religion.

      I wish you the best, and I am always here if you wish to have a discussion. My email is Scottiestoybox @gmail.com . Many hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 18:24

      • Scottie,
        Thanks for your heartfelt response. I am a member of the Christian faith, attend church, and love sharing at Bible studies, which usually get me into trouble. 🙂 If I know that God is love, then that is the name of the path and no religious label need be given or used as a test to judge or rather, misjudge others. In my opinion, many religious folk miss that Jesus criticized believers; not non-believers. Apparently, they didn’t read where there is no condemnation in Christ. I am so sorry that you’ve encountered people who take up the name of Christ without following him. They miss the practical and the spiritual.

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        Comment by Xena — August 27, 2018 @ 19:27

        • Be well. We may disagree, but we need not be disagreeable with each other. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — August 27, 2018 @ 19:30

          • Scottie. Your comment brought a smile to my face and heart as I accepted your hugs and returned them. I sincerely don’t think we are disagreeing. Rather, we are agreeing but using two different ways to come to the same conclusions — love and respect are those conclusions. (Hugs)

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            Comment by Xena — August 27, 2018 @ 20:19

  8. Hi !! Would love for you to check out my first post and know what you think of it😊

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    Comment by isha077 — September 13, 2018 @ 10:31

    • It was a good post. I wonder if the beginning of your last paragraph has some statistics behind it. I think as a statement it would be hard to prove. Remember the religious people like to point to well known mass murderer dictators as atheists. Over all it is an eye opener of religious conflicts. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — September 13, 2018 @ 14:26


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