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November 4, 2018

Stupid and costly

Filed under: Bigotry, Cartoons, Children, Family, Memes, News, Political, Questions, Reason — Scottie @ 10:16

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  1. México is pretty damn Big. This is a preemptive, preemptive strike.

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    Comment by jim- — November 4, 2018 @ 10:45

    • The military says they think the highest number of migrants getting to our border is about 1,400. We already have a huge build up on the border. Add that to the 5,200 being deployed and the requested 15,000 more all for 1,400 at the most. So frustrating. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — November 4, 2018 @ 11:03

    • Hi Jim. A preemptive strike is such a horrible thought, isn’t it? Imagine for a moment people deciding to go to another country despite the leader of that country calling them murderers and rapists. Imagine people so desperate that even though they know they are not wanted, even though they are being called names, even though they know military have been called up to “secure” the border — imagine what desperation those people must be in to leave the only place they’ve ever known as home to go to this new land, this new country, with every obstacle infront of them, and want to chance it anyways. These are beautiful people. Kind, God-fearing, Christian people. I thought we as Americans were better than this. I know we are. But I think, for some reason, we have lost our way. I hope we can find our hearts again soon. We. Are. So. Much. Better. Than. This.

      A preemptive strike, is a horrible thought.

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      Comment by Carmen Lezeth Suarez — November 4, 2018 @ 23:09

      • Estoy de acuerdo. Tenemos un refugiado de Honduras con nosotros. ¡Su historia es horrible! ¿Dónde está la compasión? Her family hired a mule to from Honduras to the Texas border. They left her at the southern Mexican border! She made it—alone! She was 15. They allowed her to enter and now she is with another family here in our community. Here story could be a book. Amazing young lady but very scarred in many ways.

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        Comment by jim- — November 5, 2018 @ 09:29

        • Mi mamá era de Honduras — so, trust me, I get it. Again, I have to remind people, we have to stay optimistic. We have to stay in a place where we can continue to fight. There is so much compassion and love — we are in a terrible time, but we have to stay together and not give in to the hate. I’m glad she found her way and that you and the community were there to walk her through. That’s what we have to do and continue to be — a community of people who continue to do the right thing anyways. The American people are NOT bad people. We are good people. There’s just a lot of noise and the wrong leader in power. We’re going to right the ship soon enough. Maybe with our election tomorrow, we’ll get some power back — who knows. But don’t believe only the bad news — as I continue to say — I see a lot of good. I do. We won’t stop fighting for what is right. It’s just not in our nature.

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          Comment by Carmen Lezeth Suarez — November 5, 2018 @ 10:25

        • Thank you for sharing Jim. We need to find our compassion and strengthen it. Best wishes. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 10:31

  2. This is waisting money cause the distance between the caravan is soo far from each other. In a living democracy the Opposition would deny the government, to spend soo much money for just the Reps election campain.

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    Comment by miles — November 4, 2018 @ 13:18

  3. This is an outrageous display of intimidation on the part of Trump to trump up votes from his lemmings. Wasting tax dollars which he has never hesitated to do to promote his hateful agenda and create a needless hardship for our military. Our Rep Senators are complicit and we need to clean that swamp.

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    Comment by House of Heart — November 4, 2018 @ 15:38

  4. Hugs.

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    Comment by House of Heart — November 4, 2018 @ 17:01

  5. If I was younger, I’d think about leaving the country…maybe Canada. This all is not going to end well. I truly believe if we even have an election by 2020, trump will be re elected. Even if the Dems win some of the house seats, will it really matter?

    To me the most disturbing thing is we live in a country where 40% of its citizens have lost their collective minds. These people are racist, xenophobic, religious extremists and full to the brim with hate and self righteousness. It may be time to start thinking of getting out. I’m too old, but a lot of you younger people can.

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    Comment by maryplumbago — November 4, 2018 @ 18:55

    • We cannot go to Canada. The requirements for immigration are rather high. You have to have a skill or fill a need. Ron is almost to retirement and I am disabled. We simply wouldn’t qualify. I know nothing will bring the evangelicals and religious nutters around, but the rest of the country may get hit hard by economic collapse. That might wake them up some. Don’t worry there are a lot of us in the same boat. We will all immigrate to the new country California. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — November 4, 2018 @ 19:03

      • I was wincing to both of your comments till I read, “we will all immigrate to the new country California…”. Hahahaha! I live here and yes, you are all welcomed! But, I know it seems tough right now. And I know it feels dire — but the truth is, we have been through worse in our country. We really have. It feels horrible right now, but we’ll get through this too. I still have faith in the American people. Whatever comes our way, we will fight and eventually we do get it right. It usually takes us the long way and it’s always a little torturous, but this is a beautiful wonderful country. And, I’ll share this with you both — though I suspect you already know this — these racist, xenophobic, religious extremists — all these hateful people have always been here. This is not new. What is new is technology — that both shows it clearly to us, and quickly. That’s both a good thing and a bad thing. We also have a leader who has given permission for people to act badly and on their fears. But I promise you, we will get through this. Do not give up! I’m not very religious, but I pray for those people who are hateful and fearful. And I give thanks for people like both of you. Who “get” it, who care, who are worried. I love Canada, but we will not have to go there — and we need both of you — all of you, all of us. This is our country, these are our people — all of them — and I just won’t give up on them, I can’t. I still believe in this beautiful country. I just do.

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        Comment by Carmen Lezeth Suarez — November 4, 2018 @ 23:01

        • Good Morning Carmen. There is a big difference in the country getting through this , and we as individuals surviving it. Even if we individuals do survive it we will be scarred. I agree the racism and hate have always been here. However it was until the last decade being forced to hide its face, to mute its voice. Even when it surged during the Obama terms in office the DOJ and other departments of government forced it back, and pushed it down. As a gay man I can honestly say for me things have been getting better with each decade of my life. We were finally accepted by the government and 3/4 of the people of the country as equal citizens with the same rights. In the last two years I have seen that shattered, the full force of the government now turned against us, a religious war supported by the DOJ and other government agencies has been declared on LGBTQ and women. Recently the attacks on non- male, non-whites, non-Christians , and LGBTQ have soared. Heck people with brown or black skin can not even do normal activities without having the police called on them. Privately owned books stores can not have a childrens reading event by someone dressed up in costume if the costume is a man in a dress without Christian extremist busting and ruining it for everyone. They demand the right to shut it down while reusing to give the parents there with their children the right to be there if they wish. I posted on this a few days ago. They think they, and only they have any rights. So yes, the country will survive, but I doubt it will look the way we thought it would and should. I also think the harm to the people is serious.
          Be well. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 05:29

          • As a woman of color — I don’t want racism (or any “ism” for that matter) pushed back and/or hidden. I’d prefer that people be accepting. Maybe for White people it has seemed that things were getting better because racism was pushed back and in the shadows, but racism has always been here — the difference was no one was believing it. The perfect example is police brutality towards Black men. That’s been happening my entire life! The difference is technology and White people now believing what Black men have been saying all along. In a horrible, horrible way, this is progress. The price has been too high — the blood of too many beautiful young Black men — and yet, White folk now believe there is problem with police brutality. That’s because of technology.

            Now, I won’t disagree with you about being scarred. Scars heal though and we’ll get through this. I’m an optimist. I can’t help it. I will not pretend to know what you’re going through because our experiences are different and I just have no idea on a certain level. But I will say this: we are with you. So many MORE people are with you now than ever before. When you hurt or are harmed, we are pained too. I will not let my Gay brothers and sisters be treated badly without fighting back harshly. In all fairness, that would have always been true — I grew up as a dancer, I grew up in the 80’s when so many of my instructors and friends were dealing with the aids crisis and dying… I will always fight for injustice — especially towards people I love. But the difference now is, people who were homophobic — people in my own family who hated Gay people (and then were preaching love at Church — seriously, how ridiculous is that?), now, people I know, understand that being Gay is no threat to them. I have seen a change in people who were so fearful of Gay people, so homophobic and now, they are embarrassed to admit they ever thought that way. These are Black and Brown people too – and White people. It’s an incredible and beautiful thing…

            I say this with love and respect: do not continue to watch the news and read the papers and ONLY grasp that information. The news is ONLY about the bad stuff. It’s always about the negative. Yes, stay informed, but stay empowered. Yes, you’re right, we will be scarred and I’m sure there will be some bleeding and bruising all the way through — it’s going to be tough. But we did NOT get this far to give up now. And I’ve got your back. I need your faith in humanity, I need you to find a morsel of faith in your fellow human being — and with that, we’ll get through this. We will!

            I don’t know what’s going to happen at the polls tomorrow. I hope the Democrats regain the House and the Senate — to put a check on this man in office. But that may not happen. If Russian hacking happened before, I’m not sure why it wouldn’t happen this time — but whatever happens, don’t believe for one moment that things are worse. They are not. They are not where we want them to be, or where I wish they would be — but we are going in the right direction. I promise. And we need everyone in the fight. Positive energy. You are not alone. Hugs. Have a sweet day.

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            Comment by Carmen Lezeth Suarez — November 5, 2018 @ 09:12

            • HI Carmen. I think maybe you misunderstood my meaning. I want the racist to be afraid of what will happen if they go off on a store clerk for skin color, I want them worried to voice their bigotry at work for fear they will lose a promotion or their job. I do not want the bigots and haters to feel free to start shouting slurs and hate in a Starbucks and threaten to deport people they have no idea if they are born hre or not. I have known about the harassment and outright murder of people of color. I have posted on everyone I could. I have spoken out about the many time a police officer got off when they clearly just killed someone in cold blood. I want men terrified to put their unwanted hands on a woman, not thinking they are owed something like females were property.

              I think you misunderstand, I am not giving up and I am fighting as much as I can. We are in this together. However the fact is the progression is just as it was in the late 1930’s Germany. Almost step by step, simply the names have changed. When I was in Germany I had many German friends. I asked how could a great and wonderful people follow such a monster. The German society before Hitler was moving more and more progressive like our was. I remember the devastation it took to knock down the hate and bigotry in German. We I first got to West Berlin we had to all take classes in the build up to the war, the things done and the end of the war. What German look like at the end and the fact her people , even the good ones, had nothing and were at the mercy of very angry people who wanted revenge. One reason the relationship between Germany and the US was so strong was the commanding officers, the leaders, the US government said hands off, don’t hurt them, the war is over. Not all Governments seen the situation that way.

              Even is we get the house and the majority of the governorships. That will be enough to check some of the worst abuses. But as I see it the smoldering fire that was dying off has now become an inferno being fed by the President and his administrations.

              You are more optimistic than I. I hope you are correct. It will be an exciting day tomorrow. Hugs

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              Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 10:23

              • Well, I may be an optimist, but I’m not delusional. Ha! I’m not sure what’s going to happen tomorrow — but regardless, we will all continue to fight. Of that I’m sure. And we’re on the same team, and we need all of us, the optimist, and the not so much. The older, the wiser, the younger — we’re all in this together. I only studied WWII and can easily see the comparisons. I know you’re right about a lot of it. But Trump will not ultimately win. Nope. There are just too many good and decent people who are fighting — so many Republicans who have jumped ship because they can’t stand what’s happening to our country. I do have faith. David Jolly, Steve Schmidt … those are off the top of my head. Don’t get me wrong, we are in tough times – – I’m not delusional about that. I’m just letting you know — you will NOT be needing to go to Canada! That’s how this conversation started. This is OUR country. Mine and yours. Black, Latinos, Gay, White, Old, Young, etc., etc., — we’ll fight this together. xo.

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                Comment by Carmen Lezeth Suarez — November 5, 2018 @ 10:35

                • I understand Carmen, and I hope you are correct, but I see the ranks of the tRump cult swelling here in the south. Here is what we are facing, churches who have drank the Kool Aid and have swallowed the bitter pill, telling all their members to not believe anything against tRump. Hugs
                  https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/11/05/pre-election-billboard-ads-portray-donald-trump-as-second-coming-of-jesus/

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                  Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 10:46

                  • That is so scary. I am truly stunned (and then not so much) by the religious right. Quite ridiculous and alarming for sure. I’m so sorry. I am. But all I can do is continue on in the struggle. And I have to do it from a place of optimism and hope. I can’t function any other way. But I think we need all “soliders” in the fight, however they come. I am not denying what you’re going through and all the fear that it must instill. I’m just letting you know — you are not alone. And, reminding you that there are others who are NOT believing or drinking the Koolaid. But I get it. I do. I have to run to work now — but thank you for this mornings chat. Have a wonderful day — and I’m just glad to know you a little better today. I’m so glad we’re on the same side!

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                    Comment by Carmen Lezeth Suarez — November 5, 2018 @ 10:55

                    • Have a great day Carmen, we will chat again soon. Be well. Hugs

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                      Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 11:50

  6. I just want to add that I appreciate and support Carmen’s perspective. She truly has a glass-half-full attitude, which is almost a rarity in these turbulent times. It’s so easy to get bogged down in the “bad” news because there’s so much of it, but yes! The American people as a whole should not be defined by the bigots and racists! We are better than that … even if we occasionally need to be reminded of this by people like Carmen. ❤

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    Comment by Nan — November 5, 2018 @ 12:40

    • Hello Nan, I salute both of you however I know how totally rudderless tRump is. His only feeling is his money and his favored child(ren) Added to that is the seeming without limit some of his staff has for anyone not white, including US citizens who they want to take citizenship from, added again to the christian dominionist who want to make our country a theocracy ( who in fact have convinced their followers of a alternate reality where our nation was founded by fundamentalist christians on a mission from their god and have gotten on school boards countrywide to push this narrative to school children that Moses gave the bill of rights to the founding fathers), to the idea that civil rights belong to only one group of people of the right skin color, the correct religion, and male.

      I have seen public hostility to Ron and I out together increase. Recently a publix’s worker asked if Ron and I were brothers. She is a delightful person who we speak to when we meet her, she extrudes happiness and confidence. Ron and I both laughed and chuckled and I told her no, we were spouses, and were going on our 19th year together. She was so happy and congratulated us I felt a little embarrassed, until noticed the face of a man a maybe 6 to 10 feet away. He was angry, and both him and his wife were glaring at us. They started to act out. I started toward them and Ron reached out and touched my shoulder and turned me in the other direction while he told the woman staff member how much we loved the store. I was steaming. This couple out of everyone around us were making it clear they hated us and all we stood for, and they did not know us at all. After we went down an aisle away from the couple I asked Ron if he thought the nice woman in produce would get an office complain and maybe I should go stick up for her. Ron flat out said he had no plan to bail me out of jail that night and he didn’t think the store management , which knows us well ( we are only a mile or two from it ) would act on a complaint such as that. Yet still Nan and Carmen, I have not felt that kind of hate and disapproval in a long time. I hope the optimism you both have is correct. However having been beating up on a job due to a christian thinking he had the right to beat the gay out of me for Christ , I am very worried. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 15:01

      • Scottie, I know you must constantly deal with bigots and religious nuts … and when it’s personal, it’s difficult to see beyond this. But my point (and I think Carmen’s as well) is just what I said. Not EVERYONE is a bigot or racist. There are still lots of good people in this nation.

        There’s no argument that tRumpsky has brought out so much negativity in this nation that it’s becoming more and more difficult to focus on the good things. But we must! To constantly dwell on all the bad stuff is not healthy for the body or mind.

        P.S. Focus on that first lady you talked with and try to remember there are still open-minded and caring people around!

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        Comment by Nan — November 5, 2018 @ 15:19

        • I understand Nan, and I have said I am happy and supportive of the optimism. Yet 32% to 36% percent of the people of this country still supports tRump no matter his bigotry or failures. Then I see news where his supporters among the rabid religious is increasing and they post billboards where they claim he is the god appointed, and a messenger of God itself. A bigot you can argue with, a fanatic religious person you can’t because they think their god has told them and their salvation depends on it.

          The thing that upsets me is originally Hitler did not have that amount of support, but with his brown shirts rousing the people to his side, beating and even killing those who disagreed, with them forcing business to fall in line, we had the third reich. In the last few days the US Hitler tRump has inflamed as many wars, as many divisions as he can. The fox news calls any democrat a traitor and they go totally off the rails about how democrats are destroying everything in the world and want to rape your sons and daughters.

          There were good , even great people in Germany. I met some really old people who claimed they never seen it coming, or they disagreed with the policies but what could they do? This is our time as there, what could we do? I did not understand at the time, but I really do now. And I am worried. See many good meaning Germans faced a choice , either go along with the government which had taken over more and had even more power, or face the backlash of everything from loss of jobs and housing , to the entire family being punished for generations like North Korea.

          Normal good germans went along and then felt they had no choice but support the Hitler government. I see that today in our country. Fascism which is defined as:

          A form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,

          That is the country I live in today and yes I am very worried. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — November 5, 2018 @ 15:46


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