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January 23, 2019

The discrimination and making of second class citizens of any non-christian and of the LGBTQ is now governemnt approved.

Filed under: Bigotry, Children, Fascism, Gender, Harm, News, Political, Questions, Religion — Scottie @ 17:53

SOUTH CAROLINA: HHS Grants Waiver Allowing Foster Care Agencies To Reject LGBTs And Non-Christians

https://www.joemygod.com/2019/01/south-carolina-hhs-grants-waiver-allowing-foster-care-agencies-to-reject-lgbts-and-non-christians/

The waiver allows Miracle Hill to reject ALL non-Christian parents, not just LGBT families.

 

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  1. Welcome to the United States of Christian theocracy. FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!

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    Comment by inspiredbythedivine1 — January 23, 2019 @ 18:24

    • I agree. At this point it is getting hard to say we are a secular country. Religion is on the money, it is the public schools, it is in all levels of government including the Justice department. The courts are packed with Christian ideology. Now we we non-Christians and LGBTQ have to pay our taxes yet can be denied the services those taxes pay for. Will we have separate drinking fountains for Christians and non-Christians? What about separate places to eat or work? I am tired tonight and this stuff is eating my insides up. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — January 23, 2019 @ 18:36

      • You never were a secular country.
        Cause all your liberal presidents were not that liberal as you thought. they were conserrvatives with a few liberal thoughts.
        It was the Churches/religions, that didn’t dare to express their claims so violently as they do now.

        In return they got from the liberal presidents, the freedom to do in their Churches what they wanted to act out, including rape of kids by their priest, and they got big influence on the School-System.
        Drunken of libertarian thoughts your society wasn’t aware of the basic conservative mood under the surface. — and the liberal party was not aware of that basic conservative mood. And too few of the Libarals fought for liberal and democratic Ideas and empathy holding the society together.
        So Obama and than later Clinton lost their elections.
        And nobody in the liberal Party had a clue, what would happen with trumpel as potus and the Republicans working together with the Churches to improve their powerbase against the liberals, steadily and radically – not questioning how much of Democracy they would give up for the preservation of power. Together with the greed of the Republicans and the Rich an Explosive mix of Rassistic conservatism showed up.
        The Liberals , thats for sure, will not win the next elections in the parliaments; They will have to learn that in the future elections will be determined in the streets, just as the Republicans demonstrate in the streeets.
        If Liberals are too fine for fighting in the streets, there will be a long period of Republican presidencies ahead –
        I fear.

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        Comment by m-iles — January 24, 2019 @ 15:05

        • Hello Miles. You know I respect you and your being a teacher, but in this I must disagree. Our founding fathers clearly wrote we were not a Christian nation and they were not all Christians.

          The Treaty is often cited, in discussions regarding the role of religion in United States government, for a clause in Article 11 of the English language American version which states that “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” A superseding treaty, the Treaty of Peace and Amity signed on July 4, 1805, omitted this phrase.

          There are more but the fact is at the time different fractions of Christian religions were moving all over our new country to get land where they could practice their version of religion. They knew of and were tired of religious persecution.

          Over the last 60 years there has been a huge push by different Christian religious fundamental and evangelical factions to claim the nation was founded as a Christian nation. They even have fake historians who claim this. They teach it in all the church schools even though it is wrong, but the kids then become adults thinking it is true and they will fight to protect that lie.

          Don’t get me wrong I supported both Obama and Clinton, but neither of them were liberals. The were centerist. which means they were not as bad as the republicans but were not progressive either. They had the idea the center is where they would get the most votes and that is not true. The centralist is a republican lite. The real republicans don’t want them , and neither do the liberals. They are in the middle and the left wants left and the right wants right.

          You are correct no one really understood what tRump would do. The problem with Clinton is she was center left, and people on the left wanted someone on the left of the spectrum. She was smart, knew policy, had good ideas, but she was center. The left doesn’t want republican lite. tRump’s base was nuts for anyone to go hard right and evangelical Christians wanted a person who would give them the chance to make the nation enshrined in religious laws. Even so tRump barely won the electoral college and lost the popular vote by 3 million.

          I think the sweeping wins made in the last election prove that the progressives will win and win big. That is one of the things that now terrifies the republicans and why so many retired rather than run again. Be well. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 15:45

          • Hi Scottie, I have been a teacher , that lies 12 years back in the past.
            “Our founding fathers clearly wrote we were not a Christian nation and they were not all Christians.”
            Believe in what your founding fathers wrote. But as centuries have passed by your Constitutions Words have developed other Meanings for/in your society.

            We here in Gerrmany do have a fundamental law too and it says in artice 14 simply: Property is an obligation.
            In 1949 that meant, he Who has a lot of properties/money, has to give lots to them, who dont have.
            The meaning has changed to the end of the last century, It now means: The richs income in Germany increased just and only in the last year by 20%; the income of the poorer stagnated or even sank by some %.

            Just the same happens under Your constitution: All law-makinking points into that same direction.

            And just as we here in Germany have misssed to notice and think about the changes, the changes in the USA have taking effect constantantly and started long ago too.

            I wrote already about the liberal/centered potusses, even under their Goverrnments – just as here in Germany – the financial laws have become the means of the greatest wealth of the Rich in the western countries.

            And that the circumstances remain the same – or better – for the Rich, the republicans unite with the Churches so openly – but doing just the same, that liberal potusses did under camouflage with their governments.
            I wrote about that in my original two comments already.
            So, for you in the USA and for us in Germany the motto has to be:
            Make the best out of the bad – and fight for it.
            hugs my friend

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            Comment by m-iles — January 24, 2019 @ 17:37

            • Hello Miles, I have a feeling no matter how long it was since you were in a classroom, you are still a teacher. That is a credit to you.

              As to your comment I simply do not know. Really I do not know how this is going to play out. I am scared my friend. If it happens as it did in Germany in 1930’s my husband and myself could be in very great danger. Miles politics aside this our lives we are talking about. Ron’s job. My disability. It is really a scary time in the USA. Ron has asked me several times if I should shut down my blog. I don’t want to. But if it is a matter of being able to live….

              Hugs

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              Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 18:41

      • As scary as the situation is, it’s important to remember that all these theocratic measures are supported by a shrinking minority of the population. Religion is still declining in American culture and society. These actions are the work of an organized minority trying to impose its will on a society which is inexorably evolving in the opposite direction. It is an effort to impose minority rule and it will actually accelerate the change by turning more people against fundamentalism.

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        Comment by Infidel753 — January 27, 2019 @ 09:30

        • Hello Infidel. Yes they are a vocal minority, but the minority has hijacked our government and its systems. tRump was elected by a minority of the country, supported so fervently by a minority that no other republican dares to challenge him, and that minority has packed the courts where historically progressive thought was supported. That they are a minority wont matter much when everything is run through the courts with life time appointments of Christian ideologues who will side with their religion over secular laws. It has happened in other countries that the minority who gets control can use that very government to stay in control. This is what bothers me. There are more children home schooled / religious schooled into myths and delusions today than ever in our country. Religious people use to at least acknowledge science, but not any more. The era of fake news has invaded everything to the point if you don’t like something , it is then fake news. I wish we had reality back. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — January 27, 2019 @ 09:40

    • The fight is not for a christian theocracy – it is mainly for preservation of Power of the Republicans and the Rich of your country, to make Money money money for the Rich – against the NOT-RICH.
      Give a glimpse to Germany, with the Social-Democratic Minister of Finance: the richs income in ‘Germany increased by 20%, the income of the poorer stagnated or even sank by some %.
      That fight is on in all industrrial states at least.

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      Comment by m-iles — January 24, 2019 @ 15:16

      • Miles I disagree somewhat. Starting with Reagan we got what they called the “Moral Majority”. It started out and grew into taking over most of the republican party. The religious right wing is radical and determined, driven to enforce their god doctrine on all the US laws. It is a hostile takeover by religion of the US secular government.

        Here is a quote from Barry Goldwater. Hugs

        “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”

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        Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 16:01

      • Hi my dear friend Scottie, I will think about your statements
        Comforting hugs
        m-iles

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        Comment by m-iles — January 24, 2019 @ 16:17

        • Thank you miles. Best wishes for you also. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 16:29

      • The fight is not for a christian theocracy

        Yes it is. While the rich and the Republicans have been willing to harness the fervor of the Evangelical millions for their own purposes, that fervor is very real, and the rank-and-file really are fighting for what Scottie or I would call a theocracy, though they don’t use that term. This is one way in which American culture is fundamentally different from that of all other Western countries — hard-line religious belief is a very real thing here among a large segment of the population. It has been declining for decades, but it is still far stronger than anything you would remotely find in Germany or any other European country. In this respect it might be helpful to think of the US as being more similar to Turkey, a country with an officially secular political system but strong religious belief in much of the population.

        Arguably the Christian Right has been more successful at exploiting the Republican party and traditional conservatism for its own ends than vice versa.

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        Comment by Infidel753 — January 27, 2019 @ 09:26

        • My thinking is from a position of the Rich Americans in the Reps party, and from that position of preservation of power, in the next elections, churches are very useful. They bring the Reps conservatists in such masses that Reps don’t want to let them go, they are potential voters of conservative parties anyway, cause they are used to being an obeying mass of conservative religions. So Reps will do anything to keep them as their voters, just by their religious conservatism, fuelling their thoughts of a Religious w h i t e America. So they sacrifice any forwad pointing thoughts, that have developed under democratic potusses. – shifting their politics sok far right to conservatism, that the mask of facism look through. That serves both religion and the thoughts of white supremacy. And as I think: All for the preservation of power of the Reps.

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          Comment by m-iles — January 27, 2019 @ 10:24

  2. Yes, you can get fired in Michigan, denied housing, and care by health professionals if they don’t agree with who you are or who they think you are.

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    Comment by koolaidmoms — January 23, 2019 @ 18:59

    • It is a horrible stain on our country. The founding fathers would be mortified at the religious nature of the country today. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — January 23, 2019 @ 19:00

  3. Unconscionable … this is no longer a nation I recognize. Hugs.

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    Comment by jilldennison — January 23, 2019 @ 21:29

    • Hello Jill. I agree. We use to look forward as a nation, we are now racing backwards. I us to think we were headed for 1950, but I think we passed that and are headed for 1850. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 05:39

      • In some areas, I think you’re right. As long as we have a fear-mongering bigot at the helm, this ship will sail stormy seas, and even once he is gone, we’re going to feel the effects of this fiasco for a long time, I think. Hugs.

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        Comment by jilldennison — January 24, 2019 @ 15:40

        • Jill I have been thinking of Barry Goldwater’s quote:

          “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
          Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 16:06

  4. Call me a naïve Canadian, but why do Americans let the U.S. get away with this lunacy?

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    Comment by Notes To Ponder — January 24, 2019 @ 01:07

    • Hello Notes. It is our system of government. What has happened is for forty years the religious right have tried to take over the republican party. It started with Reagan. Plus the republicans like to cheat and have gerrymandered the voting districts so badly the democrats need to win each place by 75% to have it count as a gain. The republicans wherever they have power try to keep any possible democrats from voting. The republicans cannot win an honest vote in most places anymore so they rigged the game. Their interest is not in democracy but in getting and keeping power for themselves. Knowing that the majority of the country has been against them the republicans are taking this last grasp at power to rig everything they can to prevent real democracy.

      Also we have to figure in the power of the states. Our constitution give a lot of power to the states to govern themselves. So in our country we have really liberal states and really restrictive states. But our biggest problem is the religious right taking over government and the rigged voting situation. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 05:49

      • It’s terrifying to contemplate the magnitude of political corruption in America. The U.S. constitution isn’t worth the paper its written on. America isn’t a nation, it’s a patchwork of convoluted bureaucracy on the brink of collapse.

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        Comment by Notes To Ponder — January 26, 2019 @ 01:34

  5. Hello naive Canadian, it’s because of States Rights. Which was supposedly done away with the Civil War but totally undone by Ronald Reagan. I see 1980 as the beginning of the end here. My son plans to immigrate to Canada as soon as he graduates from college in May. I am totally supportive of his decision. I want him to live in Freedom, something that no longer exists here in the so-called Land of the Free, if it ever did.

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    Comment by silverapplequeen — January 24, 2019 @ 04:13

    • Hello SAQ. Well said. I wish your son the best. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — January 24, 2019 @ 05:52


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