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February 10, 2019

Tennessee GOP Tries Again To Ban Same-Sex Marriage

Filed under: Asshole / Jerk, Bigotry, Fascism, Gender, Hate, Homosexual, News, Political, Questions, Religion — Scottie @ 09:43

Again notice a politician saying “god told him…”  We need to get religion out of politics.  This is another attempt to force a religious view on people who do not share that view by enshrining their religious views into secular laws.   What about all the gay people in the state, what about all the other people who think marriage rights should be for all consenting adults including same sex couples.   This is why I fight abusive religions and people who use their religion as a club to harm others.  Hugs

https://www.joemygod.com/2019/02/tennessee-gop-tries-again-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/

Known as the “Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act,” the bill by Sen. Mark Pody, R-Lebanon, and Rep. Jerry Sexton, R-Bean Station, states that the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2015 decision to legalize same-sex marriage is void in Tennessee because the state has already passed its own law and constitutional amendment limiting marriage to one man and one woman.

The bill would prohibit government officials — presumably including clerks issuing marriage certificates — from giving recognizing any court ruling that affirms same-sex unions, and specifies they cannot be arrested for failing to comply with court orders that do so.

Mark Pody, you may recall, has appeared on JMG multiple times, first in late 2015 when he declared that God had personally told him to stop same-sex marriage. According to Pody, White Jesus has tasked him with being a “watchman” to warn the wicked that the wages of their same-sex sin will be death. In 2017, Pody was the lead sponsor of his state’s anti-transgender “bathroom bill” – which failed to pass out of its committee.

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  1. Religion is offensive and dangerous. People have been killed for no more than being themselves. Religious beliefs effect their emotional equilibrium and reasoning. Some would say it’s pathological. Maybe conversion therapy would be in order. A taste of a medicine they should appreciate if not deem to be safe and affective.

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    Comment by nationofnope — February 10, 2019 @ 10:03

    • Hello Nation. Sort of what is good for the goose is also good for the gander? I wonder if they would see the irony of that? Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 12:10

  2. “God told him” …. which is the voice in his own head that he calls “god”.

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    Comment by silverapplequeen — February 10, 2019 @ 10:34

    • Hello SAQ. Yes I agree, but is not always the voice of “god” the voice inside your own head? There is an old saying about how “it is clear how god hates the same things and people I do”. I think if a person has a good foundation in empathy and fair play they tend to have more understanding gods. If you have a fundamental / Evangelical foundation your god tends to be angry and cruel, demanding and punishing. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 12:13

  3. If religion contradicts Law, for instance, becaus priestly beasts again fuck Kids, send the upper clergy to prison – for not having interferdesince hundreds of years. And tell them during services – again and again -, that THEY are responsible for the pooor state of their religions and churches.

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    Comment by m-iles — February 10, 2019 @ 11:07

    • Hello Miles. I think you are correct. The child abusers have no care for those they leave harmed and suffering, but when the upper echelon of these groups have to go to prison and suffer they will quickly put a stop to it. Think now that the cardinals and those top leave people are being charged and found guilty how they are finally making changes and pretending they really cared. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 12:22

  4. I would think Tennessee should address their incest problems first, but I imagine this try against same sex marriage will end in our favor. It is frustrating to know their are still people like this in positions of power.

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    Comment by jim- — February 10, 2019 @ 11:47

    • Hello Jim. I can not say how angry I am getting at the people who want to take our country back to times when there was not equal rights. How do they justify that? They seem to forget that those same holy books were used to justify bigotry and racism against POC and other religions. They were also used to justify slavery. Yet these people never learn giving more equality and fair play, benefits everyone including them. What is worse these people feel embolden in these times. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 12:34

      • From my experience Scottie, the stricter the laws the deeper the closets. Look at Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana incest laws. The toughest by a long shot. Why? They need them! Lol. I’m pretty certain this lawmaker has some deeply gay tendencies that are conflicting his beliefs. These are the ones that usually get caught at it.

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        Comment by jim- — February 10, 2019 @ 12:38

        • Hello Jim. I agree, and it seems others do also. On a slightly different subject, why do we have laws letting girls as young as 12 get married and when legislatures tried to change that the local religious leaders were the ones that were outraged and managed to block it? What does that say about the religion that they want to be able to marry off girls that young? Weird, and they have no shame about it. Drives me nuts. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 13:01

  5. There

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    Comment by jim- — February 10, 2019 @ 11:47

  6. Bet you five bucks this Pody fellow is hammering himself to gay porn. Any time anyone is THAT dead-set on banning something, it’s because they’re into it themselves, but somehow ashamed of it. (And it’s religion that forced him to be ashamed of it.) If there really was a just and loving God, it would set this man free from his self-imposed prison.

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    Comment by Anderson Connors — February 10, 2019 @ 11:56

    • Hello Anderson. You have a great point, it seems that way doesn’t it. When I think of the anti-gay types who get found out that they are gay it is so frustrating and angering. I think people like the Log Cabin Republicans must really have self loathing they way the vote for people that hate them and want to hurt them. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 12:41

    • There does seem to be some causality between the gay haters and the closeted gays. Amusing when that little tidbit becomes widely known.

      All believers are hypocrites at some level… And usually completely blind to it.

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      Comment by shelldigger — February 11, 2019 @ 06:31

  7. Hypocrites, haters, racist, bigots, misogynists.

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    Comment by House of Heart — February 10, 2019 @ 12:09

    • Hello HoH. Yes that sums it up nicely. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 12:46

  8. I am sorry. I live among them. They do not speak for me or others like me of which there seems to be few.

    When you see the flare, send help! “Fooomp!”

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    Comment by shelldigger — February 10, 2019 @ 15:16

    • Hello Shelldigger. They need you man! Someone has to lead them into the current century. They are still stuck in the 1800’s. It is a hard job we are asking of you, but we are sure you are up for it. You be the man for the job. Sorry to ask you to take one for the good of the nation, but your one of the few good ones who have not married your sibling(s) still left standing there. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 15:29

      • I am outnumbered and outgunned Scottie. It is a zombie horde of x-ian assholes here. In all of my years here I have met exactly one atheist, and he is a good friend of mine. We have been recording music together.

        Oh, and I raised up a few atheists along the way. Of the 5 kids (not all mine biologically) I have had a hand in raising, 4 are atheist, and the one who went religious has some mental issues. So I did what I could there.

        I haven’t outed myself as an atheist here, though there are some who know. My youngest still has a couple of years left in high school. Once he is done there, I won’t be so quiet.

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        Comment by shelldigger — February 11, 2019 @ 06:41

        • Hello Shelldigger. Congratulations on the children and best wishes for you and your family. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — February 11, 2019 @ 10:30

          • Well thanks Scottie, I appreciate that.

            …and right back at ya 🙂

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            Comment by shelldigger — February 11, 2019 @ 18:42

    • By the way I can not talk , I live in Florida. We are in the national news daily for dumb shit. Other states keep denying they are in the same union as Florida. Talk about embarrassment, where else does drunk white trash get arrested for robbing the liquor store … with a live alligator. Not sure if he was captured by the police or animal control? Yes it is a true story. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 10, 2019 @ 15:33

  9. I actually went to a lecture by this author at our local library…really astounding.

    Oh, Florida!: How America’s Weirdest State Influences the Rest of the Country https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250143640/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_crpyCbZ3W2QF4

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    Comment by maryplumbago — February 10, 2019 @ 23:06

    • Thank you Mary. I am going to send the book to Randy and get a copy for my self. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 11, 2019 @ 10:17

  10. Historically Christians have been on the wrong side of EVERY social issue in America.
    https://aghostdancer.wordpress.com/2015/06/18/how-to-answer-god-and-gay-marriage/

    Here is why Marriage is for all consenting adults.
    https://aghostdancer.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/law-of-marriage/

    It’s a law that grants rights and privledges to those protected by it. That was why I said as soon as you sue under equal protections either all marriages are not recgnized or all need to have the option to enjoy it’s protections.

    hugs

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    Comment by Michelle Styles — February 12, 2019 @ 15:37

    • Hello Michelle. I agree with you. Sadly the Evangelical /Fundamental christians do not. They seem to say their ideas of what their holy book records as 2000 year old moral judgments on the subject over rides our secular laws. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 12, 2019 @ 15:49

      • Then I challenge any one of them to leave out these words. “By the power vested in me by the state of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” as well as to not file the marriage license and then file any federal form claiming legal marriage like taxes.

        Oh but wait that would make it mans law if you had to do those things….
        geeeee

        Course arguing logic with evangelicals is pointless. They are taught blind loyalty.
        hugs

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        Comment by Michelle Styles — February 12, 2019 @ 16:02

        • Hello Michelle. Well said, and sadly true. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — February 12, 2019 @ 16:03

  11. How can you ban a marital relationship? That is a convoluted concept.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — February 26, 2019 @ 13:19

    • Hello Ragnar. They think they can legislate love. They believe against all evidence that being LGBTQ is a choice and people are simply rebelling to be LGBTQ. As they are demanding everyone live as they do, then as they have only straight marriages, they want to demand everyone must only have straight marriages. It makes no sense, but that is religion for you. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 13:24

  12. Scottie, if something neither breaks my leg or picks my pocket, I see that as being of no concern to me. If you don’t mind my curiosity, what are your political inclinations?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — February 26, 2019 @ 13:43

    • Hello Ragnar. Since you ask. As my blog shows I am very much a progressive with strong views on what people should have as the basic needs in society. I believe healthcare is a right, I believe in a living wage, I believe in a basic living allowance, I believe in free education and I go further to feel private schools should be abolished as some advanced nations have done to great success. I believe in equal rights and I support LGBTQ issues along with being against bigotry and discrimination. I do not agree with intersection discrimination idea of ranking discrimination. I do not believe in the idea of restricting rights and actions unless there is a clear compelling reason to do so. That said I think there is a compelling reason to enact strict gun control measures in the USA. I am both an atheist and mostly an anti-theist if the theist uses their religion as a club to enforce their views on others or to harm others who do not follow their religious beliefs. Those are some of my views. How about yourself. What do you believe and what issues are important to you? Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 13:59

  13. Scottie, I disagree with you on abolishing private schools. Equal rights are an important issue for me. The right to healthcare is a slippery slope in my book. If it involves our right to decide what medical treatments we pursue, that is one thing. Just saying that people should have a right to healthcare without compensating medical professionals for it is theft of their labor.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — February 26, 2019 @ 15:16

    • Hello Ragnar. There is a difference between compensation for effort and exploitation. Medical care should not be profit driven. Other countries mange to have universal healthcare as a right, and they seem to be able to keep doctors and medical staff quite well. I have lived in countries where healthcare was a right and it works at less a cost than what the people in the US are currently paying for health care. Universal health care will save trillions over ten years according to the study done by the Koch brothers. I have worked in the medical field and I can tell you there is gouging of the people in every aspect of healthcare from medicines to providers of that care. The same medical scans in the US will cost three to five times more than in Canada and Europe. Also on private schools other countries have shown that if the upper wealth level and the lower wealth levels have to attend the same schools, the schools are better funded and staffed. The education of all students is greatly improved. In the USA we have a tiered education system based on income and skin color. That is an unacceptable situation that will be the down fall of the country. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 15:25

  14. Scottie, you make a valid point. If the government only paid for our medical care, I would not object to that if I had a greater say in which medical professionals I could see.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — February 26, 2019 @ 15:28

    • Hello Ragnar. I think you are confusing universal healthcare or even medicare for all, with healthcare insurance and the ACA ( Obamacare). Insurance companies limit who you can see and what care you get to increase their profit. The ACA is health insurance co-paid by the government. It is a really bad way to give healthcare for everyone but the best we could do back then. It is a give away to insurance companies and it raises the total cost of healthcare. Anytime you add a middle man it costs more and insurance is a middle man.

      Take medicare. You can see any doctor and do not need referrals. It runs well and is like by those who have it. Administrative costs are really low. It needs to be expanded to cover things like dental care but other wise works OK for adults. However it would not really work for children or those with no income. Universal healthcare is similar except the government pays all the costs of providing healthcare to the entire population and does so out of taxes. Generally it is a combination of taxing upper levels of income more and taxes on certain luxury items. You might have a tax added to the cost of a yacht to pay for universal health care for example. If you can spend millions on a boat you can pay more in tax to help everyone be healthy. Be well. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 15:54

  15. Scottie, my only real issue with the idea of universal healthcare is that the government would use that in an attempt to deny someone a lifesaving medication for one condition and another person who has a condition that also has this concern would get a pass. Here are 2 examples 1: Medication for Epilepsy, which could be fatal if untreated and 2: Cancer medication which cancer patients would need for their treatment. What are your views based on the 2 examples of potentially fatal conditions I mentioned?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — February 26, 2019 @ 16:05

    • Hello Ragnar. Treatment should be medically necessary and shown to have benefit when used. So for example homeopathy wouldn’t’ be covered as it is not medical care but a hoax. Nor would spiritual healing or other such scams. There are already procedures for required healthcare and those procedures would have to be followed regardless of the patient. So no double standards leading to some PT’s getting treatment and some being denied. Now if the doctor or panel of doctors say treatment wont help then it can be denied. For example I worked in an ICU. I seen PT’s who were dying, who had days to live being given dialysis. It wouldn’t extend their life and wouldn’t help them but was ordered due to the fact dialysis is a huge money maker in the US. In fact I again don’t think you understand universal care. Needed medical treatments including medications are not with held. So in your examples those PT’s with those medical problems would be treated to the best of medical science. The surprising thing is the costs actually go down in universal care because price gouging of medications is eliminated. Drug companies make a profit for use, but they do not get to go nuts about it. A one dollar pill is not sold for 800 dollars and then the price again jacked up to 1,700 dollars as recently happened here in the US. I need a lot of medical care. I am lucky I have both private insurance and Medicare. One medication I need jumped in price over $600 even though it costs about 15 dollars to make and was already being sold for several hundred dollars. The Medicare system in the US is by law not allowed to negotiate for lower drug prices like every other medical care system in the world. That makes medications in the US some of the most expensive. Hope this answered your question. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 16:20

  16. Scottie, in a sense that does answer my question. As far as my Epilepsy example is concerned, are you familiar with that condition at all?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — February 26, 2019 @ 16:25

    • Hello Ragnar, to so much. I have a basic understanding it is seizures in the brain. I have cared for PT’s having seizures before and other than some medications there was not much we could do for them except to protect them from harm while it was happening. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 16:30

    • Sorry Ragnar, that should have read “not to much so”. I really do not know much about epilepsy. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — February 26, 2019 @ 16:31


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