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April 6, 2019

Conservative Christian Republicans desperate to force women to give birth at any cost

Filed under: Bigotry, Criminal, Fascism, Gender, Harm, Health, News, Political, Questions, Religion — Scottie @ 12:39

Alabama Law Would Punish Women Who Have Abortions With 99 Years In Prison

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/04/alabama-law-would-punish-women-who-have-abortions-with-99-years-in-prison/

Alabama is proposing a law that would make carrying out an abortion at any stage of the pregnancy punishable by 10 to 99 years in jail.

The strict abortion ban, which has been branded a “death sentence for women”, would even criminalise performing abortions in cases of rape and incest.

The bill, introduced earlier this week by conservative Christian Republicans desperate to force women to give birth at any cost, would allow for abortions only when there is “a serious health risk to the unborn child’s mother.”

Taking a page from conservative Christian anti-abortion propaganda, the over-the-top legislation even goes so far as to equate safe and legal abortion to genocide. The bill states:

Commenting on the new legislation, the bill’s sponsor, Rep. Terri Collins, said:

It simply criminalizes abortion Hopefully, it takes it all the way to the Supreme Court to overturn (Roe versus Wade.)

Bottom line: In a blatant attack on a woman’s right to choose, a new Alabama law would make abortion punishable by up to 99 years in prison.

The Republican War on Women continues.

32 Comments »

  1. There simply are no words …

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    Comment by Nan — April 6, 2019 @ 12:42

    • Hello Nan. Yes back to the days when females were property of their fathers and then their husbands. So many of these religious leaders think females are simply for the males sexual pleasure and to breed. It is totally toxic and they do not see who wrong it is because god gave them the right to be “lord” over women. Self important pricks. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 6, 2019 @ 13:18

  2. The right to life ends at birth.

    I swear to dawg these people see women as nothing but incubators.

    Rgds,

    Tengrain

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    Comment by tengrain — April 6, 2019 @ 12:42

    • Hello Tengrain. Yes and sexual pleasure toys. Really, I read the other day an article from one of these well known religious leaders that said wives must have sex if their husband wanted it even if she did not or it was painful. Yes he argued she had to do it no matter how much it hurt because it was a man’s right and her god given duty to sexual please him. Gggrrrrrr! Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 6, 2019 @ 13:21

      • Please forgive me for this but … men are horny bastards. And “Christian” men are the worst.

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        Comment by Nan — April 6, 2019 @ 13:23

    • omg;
      I’m laughing, but how true: “The Right to Life ends at Birth”. Right on point!

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      Comment by randy — April 6, 2019 @ 14:17

  3. Hi Scottie;
    So, dumb question here: Didn’t Roe v. Wade make abortion legal federally?

    hugs;
    randy

    ps: the other computer is working!!! Whoo hoo!

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    Comment by randy — April 6, 2019 @ 14:18

    • Hello Randy. That is great! On abortion being legal, Christians have found if they don’t like something to just keep hammering on it. They just chip it away bit by bit until it maybe be legal, but you just can’t have it. The well known Christian LGBTQ haters said that was what they planned to do to same sex marriage, make it a marriage in name only by chipping away any rights in it for gay couples. They are doing this in Texas, there is a court case in which the republican Christians are arguing that just because same gender couples can get married doesn’t mean the state has to grant them the same rights mixed gender couples have. They sued to keep the education and state government from giving health and retirement benefits to same gender couples. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 6, 2019 @ 15:07

      • Hi Scottie;

        I just read your post about the funeral. Sorry about the loss of your friend. I hate funerals. They are a way to say goodbye, yes, and a way to confirm to each-other that we are still alive, and even a way to celebrate the life of someone who lived and was loved. I was at a funeral for a family friend last year and was surprised to hear so much about God and everything except the person who passed and the way they would be missed. Interestingly enough, everyone I saw leave there that day really seemed happy to be away from the church.
        And, to my point, and one I’ve shared with you before, if the so called Christians (I’ve read my Bible, what they are doing is not in there) were to do like good restaurants: serve a better product than anyone else, the public will beat down the door to be there. Quite frankly, if the Church has to force people to live by their dictates, has to obligate people to be there, etc., then they must not be presenting the “best product”, and they have only themselves to blame. If they responded to people who wanted something different with “well, we are very happy here, and we think you would be too, but do your own thing” and truly had a “product” wanted, then there would be no need for them to be so sneaky, abusive and demanding. Instead, to continue the idea, such people are angrily saying “look, if we have to eat this, everyone else does too”.

        Hugs,
        randy

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        Comment by randy — April 6, 2019 @ 17:27

        • Hello Randy. Thank you. Well said. Hope your weekend is good. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — April 6, 2019 @ 17:34

  4. Northern states should offer incentives for women to leave these backwards states. Let the exodus begin. It’d make great TV.

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    Comment by john zande — April 6, 2019 @ 17:16

    • Hello John. Then the guys in the backward states would simply enslave the women even worse, locking them in the homes or chaining then up like bad pets. If they could drive out the self confident women and keep just the meek subservient females they would be in their teen boy paradise. I think most of them couldn’t get laid much less married if it was not for their religion demanding women to do as the guys say. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 6, 2019 @ 17:32

    • Seems to me, not living in a backward state is incentive enough.

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      Comment by Czippee l'Shimp — April 6, 2019 @ 18:50

      • Good point, but it would sure be humiliating for state govts to have TV crews filming people leaving en masse. You’d hope businesses would leave, too.

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        Comment by john zande — April 6, 2019 @ 19:03

    • You make it sound like it’s SO AFFORDABLE to just pick up & leave. Get real already.

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      Comment by silverapplequeen — April 7, 2019 @ 05:02

      • I know it’s expensive, which is why I said other states should offer incentives, like, for example, relocation assistance, a dedicated employment unit for arrivals, first year rent assistance, etc. People in the southern states that pass these laws should, quite literally, be treated as refugees.

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        Comment by john zande — April 7, 2019 @ 06:44

        • Again, get real.

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          Comment by silverapplequeen — April 7, 2019 @ 09:46

        • Hello John. I know Ron and I are really tired of being in a deep red state. I would jump at a chance to move to a progressive state if assistance to do so was available. I think you are right about the effect of all those people moving, but it might also have a negative effect on the states they move to also. I know Jill has said a few times on her blog that she really wants to move out of Ohio because of it being a deeply Republican state but can not afford to. Your suggestion reminds me of what is happening at the southern border. People fleeing oppression and hate to find a better life in a better place. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2019 @ 09:55

  5. Laws that this do not only make abortion a crime. Women who have miscarriages will have to PROVE that they did not self-abort. This is already happening in some states.

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    Comment by silverapplequeen — April 7, 2019 @ 05:05

    • Hello SAQ. Yes, and don’t get me started about the burial of the fetus tissue regardless of miscarriage or abortion. It is a horrible burden and disgusting. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 7, 2019 @ 06:20

  6. Republicans nor Democrats had issue with using forced abortions and sterilization against my people. But if you’re not red you have to save the baby at all cost? Yup guess even now the red man is just an animal not worthy of protections.

    hugs

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    Comment by Michelle Styles — April 10, 2019 @ 11:23

    • Hello Michelle. There is no doubt about the bigotry and abuse your people suffered. I would also remind you they were sterilizing others against their will also. I am not minimizing what your people went through, just saying there were not the only ones targeted. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — April 10, 2019 @ 12:22

      • Yes but forced abortions was ended in the US in 1930. It was not ended on native reservations (by the government clinics) until 1986 with the last one being in 1992. Force sterilization was ended in 1960 in the US but was not ended until 1986 on native reservations (by the government clinics) with the last known one in 2001.

        There in lay the difference. We were the very last to be protected from these horrible events. Every group was protected decades before my people. Hence why I focused there.

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        Comment by Michelle Styles — April 11, 2019 @ 10:26

        • Hello Michelle. My quick google finds they were still doing forced sterilizations of the mentally ill and mentally handicapped into the 1980’s. Again what was done to the Native people in the past and the discrimination that continue are wrong, immoral, and disgusting. I am not in anyway trying to talk anything away from the horrible abuses your people endured. What humans can do to each other is mind blowing. We are not really a “good” species. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — April 11, 2019 @ 12:17

          • I think humans as people are “good” by nature. It’s when collective groups begin thinking they are entitled to that others have because they feel they are supperior that we jump the shark. Example Christians believe they were entitled to the lands of my people because their invisible god gave it to them. They felt superior to us and used that for collectively horrible things. But single people as a person would have never thought of such horrors.

            hugs
            Yes mentally ill were sterilized into the early 80s in some places still in the US,

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            Comment by Michelle Styles — April 11, 2019 @ 13:05

            • Hello Michelle. I disagree about single people. I think some people are just rotten to the core. Some people have no empathy, some even enjoy the pain of others. So like the feeling of superiority. Now I think there are many many wonderful people. But there are a few in every batch that , well they need to be separated from the rest. Hugs

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              Comment by Scottie — April 11, 2019 @ 14:01

              • There are a few in every batch who I wouldn’t shed a single tear if their heads suddenly became detatched. But over all I still believe in the goodness of people in general when not influenced by crowds, cults or what not…
                hugs

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                Comment by Michelle Styles — April 11, 2019 @ 15:28

  7. Shit, we’ve become a Central American Catholic country all of a sudden. There are tons of women in jail for getting abortions (or suspected abortions) in several countries because of their strict anti-abortion laws.

    What if a woman in Alabama has a miscarriage? Can she be hauled to court and tested to ensure that it wasn’t actually an abortion in disguise, and then sentenced? Happens in South America all the time (trying to remember if the last one I read was El Salvador or Belize).

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    Comment by TheChattyIntrovert — May 17, 2019 @ 12:42

    • Hello Chatty. My understanding is yes. The anti-abortion bills in Alabama and Georgia have some clauses in them to that effect. If a woman miscarries she is investigated to see if she caused the miscarriage. She did she would be charge and if found guilty could go to prison. Also if a woman leaves the state to get an abortion she can be charged and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
      Some of these bills require the miscarried body tissue to have a funeral and burial. It has gotten scary in the theocracy that use to be a secular country called United States. If the SCOTUS does over turn the right of abortion I think any state that banns it should be boycotted by all business and other states. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — May 17, 2019 @ 13:00

      • Crap–i was hoping it was just a theoretical. They seriously thought about it?
        Women are screwed in this country. I’m getting angrier by the second… because it could just as easily happen here in Texas. Damn these idiot zealots!

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        Comment by TheChattyIntrovert — May 17, 2019 @ 13:44


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