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March 30, 2020

CBS News: Florida church jammed for Sunday service despite pandemic

Filed under: News — Scottie @ 09:12

Florida church jammed for Sunday service despite pandemic
Sheriff tells leaders of The River at Tampa Bay Church they violated local “safer-at-home” order.

Read in CBS News: https://apple.news/Ar5XGD-ugTh-15fjgPtnPlQ

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  1. Is it a prerequisite to be stupid in Florida? 😊

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    Comment by House of Heart — March 30, 2020 @ 09:32

  2. Methinks the pastor is more concerned with his paycheque than immortal souls. .

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    Comment by Carmen — March 30, 2020 @ 10:15

    • Hello Carmen. I think you are correct. I seen all these really wealthy on TV preachers with many private jets and at least one mansion claiming you must keep tithing even if you lose your job. Paula White wants one of your paychecks before you lost your job. Greed is their true god, and they worship money. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — March 30, 2020 @ 12:41

  3. HI, Scottie – I would say, “Let them, so that Darwin can assist,” except that those same people would think nothing of mingling with the rest of us, thereby increasing OUR risk. So far, no one’s been arrested – that I’m aware of – but it’s a really hot political potato, especially when gov’t has to intrude on a church, or church services. And being good Xtians, they will lament loudly how they’re being persecuted.

    Me

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    Comment by Dennis Cole — March 30, 2020 @ 11:19

    • Hello Dennis. Very true. In fact some of those preachers are hoping the government would try to shut them down. The fund raising they could do on that alone would be heaven for them.

      I noticed on line some of the religious leaders that kept their churches open or did event are now sorry as they or some of their members have the virus. At least one preacher died after claiming it was a political hoax and went on a trip preaching Jesus. His whole family has it it also. Think of the many people they contacted who now may have it? All because their religion teaches deny science and to love tRump. Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — March 30, 2020 @ 12:52

  4. How long till we see the chart indicating the jump in cases in the area?

    I generally try my best to not be too insulting of the religious, but in some cases you just have to say it…

    Fucking morons!

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    Comment by shelldigger — March 30, 2020 @ 11:50

    • . . . yup!

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      Comment by Carmen — March 30, 2020 @ 12:07

    • Hello Shelldigger. I agree. I ask how you could trust your preacher talks for god if he first tells you the virus is a hoax and then a bunch of your friends or yourself come down with it? How can you trust god or anything said of god again? Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — March 30, 2020 @ 13:00

  5. I just read this AM about a Presbyterian Church choir group that decided to go ahead with their practice … and ended up with two dead and several infected.

    Apparently, when they decided to go ahead with the practice, none of the participants had experienced any symptoms. The church offered disinfectant at the door as the people arrived and everyone tried to stand as far apart as possible, considering it was a group sing.

    The theory is that either someone was carrying the virus without symptoms or the virus is airborne and all the heavy in and out breathing that people take when singing caused it to spread. The latter possibility is very unnerving.

    In any case, anyone that takes chances with this virus is putting themselves at risk. Period.

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    Comment by Nan — March 30, 2020 @ 14:52

        • Hello Nan. Thank you for the link. I had read a much shorter version and it did not have all the details. I do hope the explanation is their forceful singing rather than the virus being airborne. That is a totally different level of precautions and right now the droplet precautions wouldn’t offer much protection. I do feel sorry for these people. They tired to do the right thing, they simply let their bias overrule their reasonable cautions. I bet they won’t do it again. Next time they are told something is going around and people shouldn’t gather in groups, I bet they will listen to the warnings. They at least tried unlike the super religious assholes who also are members of the tRump cult. Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — March 30, 2020 @ 15:53

          • Thing is, Scottie, the “forceful singing” is why it’s suspected the virus could be airborne. However, as you know, this virus is VERY sneaky and has been known on several occasions to stay hidden … just waiting for the opportunity to jump on someone new and weaker, causing that person to get visibly and physically sick.

            My other-half is showing signs of stress from being cooped up. As I think I mentioned, I’m fine because I’m on the computer most of the day anyway, but he likes to get out and go places … shopping, if nothing else … and we would regularly go out to dinner. I think it would help if he would try going for a walk, but he “doesn’t enjoy just walking” so that idea is down the tubes. sigh

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            Comment by Nan — March 30, 2020 @ 16:04

            • Hello Nan. Yes the virus is sneaky. I read how the “spear like tips” are coated with a substance that the antibodies do not recognize as a threat.

              I am sorry to hear about your husbands need to get out of the house. I would ask if having a new dog to raise, train, walk would help him? I bet there are online sites with suggestions you could look up. Best of luck. Like you my life is here at my computers. Ron understood that and a couple years ago built me this wonderful office. So for me nothing really changed except I do not go to the grocery store, which with my recent fall and walking problem I wouldn’t anyway. Life has changed for Ron some but not in a way of going out much. We had already stopped doing a lot of that due to my growing pain levels I did not address. After this is all over we will see what we can do to get back in to society.

              I just heard that some travelling nurses are having trouble with renting. Seems renters are now scared to rent to nursing people due to the Covid-19 virus. Hugs

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              Comment by Scottie — March 30, 2020 @ 17:07

              • Nope … your suggestion about getting another dog is most definitely out of the question! For more reasons than one. But thanks anyway. 🙂

                I don’t think most of us have a CLUE on all the effects of this virus. Of course our biggest concern is staying well, but there is SO MUCH more going on behind the scenes that many of us will never know or hear about. Most of all, the people like Ron and others who are having to work in the thick of things. And to think it may not get better for at least 2-3 more months! If then.

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                Comment by Nan — March 30, 2020 @ 17:18

                • Hello Nan. I agree. One more suggestion then I will admit defeat. Does your husband do any woodworking? Or gardening? OK I am going back to petting my cats. 😺😸😻 Hugs

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                  Comment by Scottie — March 30, 2020 @ 17:45

                  • Gardening right now is out of the question — we’re still getting on-again, off-again rain showers.

                    He used to do carvings on ostrich eggs … and has started that up again. And he’s somewhat of a pencil artist so he’s also fiddling around with that again as well. He’s actually quite artistic, but just between you and me and the gatepost (ha-ha) … he tends toward procrastination. However, with this social-distancing thing and being stuck at home, I think a LOT of people are finding new activities–or returning to old ones–to pass the time.

                    I think you and I are lucky that we’re computer nerds. 😄

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                    Comment by Nan — March 30, 2020 @ 17:57

  6. Scottie, a word I often use is “stewardship.” Whether it is a business, religious, charity or political leader (or leaders), we need them to be responsible stewards with our money, time, faith, and lives. In my volunteer leadership, I have seen many self-less and wonderful faith leaders. A large number of charities were even spawned by faith leadership.

    With that said, I have seen faith leaders who were not such good stewards. I have witnessed greed and a doctrine of exclusivity. Just because someone is a minister does not mean he can’t be full of himself.

    What I have written before is if your faith leader thinks more of him or herself, than the message, then find yourself another church, synagogue or temple. Leaders must be among our better angels, especially when they are our faith leaders. If they cannot walk the talk, then how are we supposed to follow suit?

    Putting people at risk is just plain poor stewardship. Doing so because a person in leadership in the US downplays the seriousness makes it even more poor. This is not a game. People have died and gotten sick.

    When I see people praying for a miracle, my first thought is God gave us this miracle of a tool between our ears. He expects us to use it. It reminds me of the joke about the man who prays and prays to win the lottery. When he does not, he prays and asks God why he has not answered his prayers. The clouds part and God says, “It would help if you bought a ticket!”

    That is my two cents. Keith

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    Comment by Keith — March 31, 2020 @ 14:51

    • Hello Keith. Thanks for your two cents. What do you think of churches getting so many tax breaks not available to other not for profits? Yes churches can do charitable work, but so can nonprofits not associated with religion, yet those not associated with religion don’t get as many tax breaks. Case in point is parsonages or preacher housing. What do you think of the attempt to get rid of the Johnson Amendment? Hugs

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      Comment by Scottie — March 31, 2020 @ 15:49

      • Scottie, nonprofits are supposed to avoid being political since they get a tax break. The same should be apply to churches. If they advocate a candidate in church, then their tax break should be eliminated. Keith

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        Comment by Keith — March 31, 2020 @ 18:01

        • It’s too bad your sensible suggestion hadn’t been applied to all those pastors who whipped their congregations into a frenzy over the present President, Keith.

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          Comment by Carmen — March 31, 2020 @ 18:25

        • Hello Keith I agree. But there has been several court cases where non-profits try to get the same employee housing tax break of churches yet they are denied. First in the US tax departments and then the courts. The two lawsuits I am aware of were thrown out due to technical ground because the facts are not arguable. Judges with religious backgrounds found ways to avoid ruling on the merits as they wanted to preserve a right for churches, for religion, that other nonprofits can not get. I find this very offencive. I simply think the rules should be fair and apply to everyone.
          Hugs

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          Comment by Scottie — March 31, 2020 @ 18:50

          • Scottie, I don’t disagree with your points. The worst example is the Church of Scientology which is a cult, not a religion. It argued and was denied for the longest time that it was a religion. Then, it won out and now uses the tax code to buy huge amounts of property. The fact Scientology was created by a highly prolific science fiction writer seems to be lost. The fact it asks people to spend hundreds of thousands on religious materials and takes over the life of the person and family seems to be lost. Keith

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            Comment by Keith — April 1, 2020 @ 09:39

            • I think it can be successfully argued that ALL religions are cults, Keith – specifically, death cults. Not a notion I would have subscribed to when I was a part of all that, mind you, but now that I am ‘outside’ I can definitely appreciate that argument. It’s all about perspective.

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              Comment by Carmen — April 1, 2020 @ 09:43


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