10 thoughts on “NBC News: Video shows police in Kenosha, Wis., shooting Black man in back

  1. Nan August 24, 2020 / 15:43

    Ahhhh yeah. Just shoot the bastard! After all, he’s black. 😠

    Re: the after-effect riots … the individuals that start destroying property are only hurting their cause. I really wish they could see that.

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    • Scottie August 24, 2020 / 16:34

      Hello Nan. I agree, it is upsetting some people. However do you really think nonviolent protests today have much chance of changing the minds of the powers that be? They are not inconvenienced by nonviolence. Media doesn’t really cover it. But loss of property, loss of commercial use gets action. The cries then come not from the abused but from the moneyed, the wealthy corporations effected. Decades of complaining, of protesting has not achieved anything because the entrenched powers don’t care as it doesn’t effect them. In one state the governor just made it illegal to camp out over night on public property as a felony to stop the peaceful protesters camping out day and night on the state house lawn. Those people arrested will lose their right to vote in the upcoming election. Yes the governor is a Republican. So a peaceful protest is dealt with this way, loss of rights and helping to reelect tRump. The entrenched powers simply no longer care about standards or norms, they do not care about the people. They only care about money and those with the money. So it does pay to hit them where they care about. Hugs

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      • Nan August 24, 2020 / 16:44

        I hear ya’, Scottie. BUT … destroying property is NOT helping anything or anyone. I don’t care how much attention it gets them and their cause. It is NOT the way to make changes. It angers me … and I support what they’re trying to accomplish.

        Not only that, the orange orangutan uses these actions to HIS advantage. So if for no other reason than that … they need to STOP.

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        • Scottie August 24, 2020 / 16:52

          Hello Nan. I hear what you are saying, but what got action in the protests across the country, when commerce was interfered with. OK so what do you want them to do to achieve change, to get attention, to force ( force is the right word ) those in power to agree to the changes which those powers do not want to do? Those in power do not want to cooperate with those changes, so how would you advise the protesters to force the ones in power to change? Hugs

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          • Nan August 24, 2020 / 17:09

            Scottie, do you honestly believe that destroying property — often owned by people who are not in the least bit politically involved — is going to change anyone’s mind? You cannot FORCE people to change (unless, I suppose, you were holding a gun to their head), least of all this president and his ass-kissers. Moreover, all it does is make the “other side” condemn the protesters for their actions and gives them the (justified) opportunity to point fingers.

            I am definitely in favor of protests. The more people involved, the better. Carrying signs … shouting … even blocking off streets. These are signs of UNHAPPY people. And when they get wide coverage in the media of their actions, that’s all the better … because that makes the average citizen aware of problems that need to be … MUST BE … dealt with. These are the things that create CHANGE.

            The thing that must be accepted by all of us is THIS president is NOT going to change. Period. It doesn’t matter to him if people are killed outright on the streets so long as he gets his way.

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            • Scottie August 24, 2020 / 17:31

              Hello Nan. You hit on part of it, but you wouldn’t go far enough. You said you were OK with even blocking streets. What that does is stop commerce, interfere with daily activities. You talk of the destruction of property as if it was private citizen property, the local home owner. What really is being destroyed is commercial property, malls and stores well insured. Those properties are well connected as they are backed by wealthy corporations and they demand the local politicians fix what is interfering with their profit. Yes the SPTV narrative is one of uncontrolled rioting, but the real truth is the burning of a Target got far more action on reforming the police than many nights of peaceful protests. In our world money talks Nan. If you don’t inconvenience the wealthy then the politicians today simply do not care. If you stop commerce they really start to care.

              During the non-violent protests of the civil rights movement in the 1960’s the videos of black people being viciously attacked and beaten caused white people to rise up and step in to stop it.

              For the last few years we have video after video of black people being killed by police for no reason and getting away with it and it was only when the protests stopped the rest of the people from their daily lives did things start to change. Times have changed Nan. I do not support indiscriminate crimes nor looting, but stopping the activity of a city, stopping commerce, even destroying the buildings I do support.

              I recently was reminded by Angela Grant of how long BLM has been protesting? July 13, 2013. I was stunned it has been that long, yet nothing has changed. Just yesterday a black father putting his child into his truck was shot in the back while walking away from police, and another black black man was shot multiple times walking away from the police. Both are under investigation.

              So 7 years of peaceful protesting and black people are still being shot in the back. How much longer do you want them to wait before burning the entire thing down? As tRump said, what do they have to lose? Hugs

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              • Nan August 24, 2020 / 17:38

                We are on different sides on this one, Scottie. But that’s OK. We agree on so many others that this is just a blip.

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                • Scottie August 24, 2020 / 17:51

                  Hello Nan. Yes it is OK, but what is better is we are able to talk to each other about our views, what really is behind how we feel, what we think is good optically vs what works in the real world.

                  I enjoy and welcome that. Because I see things through what I digest and read, but I do not live all over the country. You live on the opposite of the country from me, are older than me, and have a different view point from me. If I can not talk to and hear your side of the discussion, how can I ever deal with a potential cult member who may come here, or Dylan if he ever comes back?

                  So keep adding your view point, your ideas. It may sink in that you are correct. I will keep thinking on what you say, and juggle that around in my head with what else I know. Maybe you will convince me to your view, or I will be better able to explain mine.

                  Nan the important thing is to be able to discuss and argue everything with out anger or malice. I often think that the loss to do that is what led to where we are today as a country. I remember when talking politics was common, and slowly it became a taboo topic. Talking about sex was more acceptable than politics. But in a democracy being able to talk politics is essential, part of the deal.

                  So in short if you managed to read this far ( yes I know I am long winded ) please feel free to voice your opinion and keep trying to change minds here on my Toy Box. You may succeed, or your own view may be changed. But we wont know if we do not talk. Be well. Best wishes. Hugs

                  OT The drama continues and time is running out. The party concern has decided to not be real helpful on it, and he has only till Monday. I am recommending family look into a cheap motel room. It is causing a great disruption in my household. Hugs

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                  • Nan August 24, 2020 / 17:56

                    Re: the OT — sorry to read that, but not surprised from all you’re told me. The motel room sounds like a good idea.

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                    • Scottie August 24, 2020 / 18:02

                      Hello Nan. Ron has not been able to deal with anything else for a week, and has been so frustrated and distraught he is emotionally exhausted. He can not even watch his TV, but just sits and tries to think of solutions. I did get him to go out to a co-workers house from his ICU days as they have asked him over several times, and last night he really needed to go. They asked me also but my back / hips wouldn’t let me go. They sent me a food plate. I told him today it is out of his hands and we are out of it basically. If more comes of this I will send it to you in an email. Hugs

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