Kyle Rittenhouse cried, vomited and worried about social media as he told Antioch cops, ‘I shot two white kids’

To be clear there is no winners here.  However if he had been a black boy we all know the rest of the story.   I want the right wing and the thugs militia terrorists who encouraged this immature kid to suffer as much legal prosecution as possible.   Earlier today I seen a tweet saying he was just a boy and should be released and I think of all the 11 and 12 year old black boys charged as adults in their criminal trials.   No way.  

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Kyle Rittenhouse cried, vomited and worried about negative social media comments after turning himself in to a far north suburban police department following the fatal shooting of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer, according to newly released documents.

Rittenhouse, 17, and his mother appeared in the lobby of the Antioch police station around 1:20 a.m. Aug. 26, just hours after prosecutors say the teenager shot three men with an AR-15-style rifle, killing two of them. Police reports show Rittenhouse repeatedly acknowledged his role in the shooting during his conversations with officers, though he insisted he had been protecting himself.

“I shot two white kids,” he told police, according to documents obtained late Friday under a Freedom of Information Act request that village officials initially denied.

The records offer the first detailed accounts of what transpired in the hours after the shootings in Kenosha, a lakeside town located about 10 miles from the Illinois border. Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26, died from the injuries they sustained that night.

According to 17 pages of police reports, an emotional Rittenhouse told police he had been hired to protect a Kenosha business amid the unrest stemming from the police shooting of Jacob Blake, a Black man who was shot multiple times in the back at close range days earlier. At some point during the night, Rittenhouse said, he tried stop an unnamed man from hitting windows and the man began to chase him.

The teen told officers that he had been hit in his lower neck and head with a baseball bat and a skateboard before firing his weapon, according to the police report. A filing by Kenosha prosecutors does not indicate that any of the victims were wielding a baseball bat when they were shot, though video taken that night does show Huber reaching for the rifle as a skateboard hits Rittenhouse’s shoulder.

Kyle Rittenhouse booking mug from Oct. 30, 2020, from the Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department.
Kyle Rittenhouse booking mug from Oct. 30, 2020, from the Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department. (Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department)

Antioch officers noted small scratches on Rittenhouse’s arms when he turned himself in, but he did not have any cuts or bruises, a police report states. Paramedics, however, were twice called to the police department to treat him.

“As I stayed with Kyle, I observed him exhibit several different emotions,” Antioch Officer Kourtney Nemec wrote in her report. “I observed Kyle to appear calm, then burst into crying fits, and then calm down again. Every once in a while, I observed Kyle to throw up. I noticed a pattern to his behavior for over an hour with him calming down, crying, calming down again and then throwing up.”

The teen also had a tense exchange with his mother, Wendy, who was not convinced her son had killed anybody. Rittenhouse insisted he had “ended a man’s life.”

“He’s dead,” he said, according to a report by Sgt. Nicholas Garcia.

“Wendy then raised her voice and said ‘we don’t know that!’,” the report states.

Video from the scene of the protests showed Rittenhouse apparently trying to surrender to police in Kenosha after the shootings, but they didn’t arrest him. Rittenhouse told Antioch officers that when he tried to speak with officers there after the shootings, he was told to go home.

When he showed up at the suburban police station hours later, he was wearing the same jeans and tan-colored cowboy boots he had been wearing during the protests, according to the police reports.

While waiting for Kenosha detectives to arrive, Rittenhouse repeatedly asked to speak with his sisters and an 18-year-old friend who were back at the family’s apartment. The friend, who the Tribune is not naming because he has not been charged, was with Rittenhouse in Wisconsin and still had his gun, according to police reports.

Nemec allowed the teen to make the phone call, which quickly turned into a discussion about social media reaction to the shooting.

“When they spoke the conversation turned into the family discussing the negative comments about Kyle on social media, which caused Kyle to become upset,” Nemec wrote. “I requested Kyle to stop speaking with his sisters and (friend) as this was causing him to become upset and again made him cry. Kyle continued to talk about him being on social media and then briefly showed me from his phone a picture of him with the AR-rifle at the Kenosha riots from earlier in the evening.”

Police confiscated Rittenhouse’s assault weapon from the friend’s trunk a short time later, along with another AR-15 rifle the friend said he carried that night in Kenosha, according to reports. The friend told police that he had not witnessed the shooting, but Rittenhouse called him immediately afterward, and he had driven the teen back across the Illinois state line.

The friend later was questioned by Kenosha detectives at the Antioch police station, where he said he bought the weapon for Rittenhouse earlier this year so the two could hunt together, according to the reports. The friend told police he purchased the gun in his name at a hardware store in northern Wisconsin, but Rittenhouse paid for it.

The friend kept Rittenhouse’s rifle at his stepfather’s house in Kenosha, and the two picked it up before heading to protests, according to the reports. The friend told police that he wished he would have stopped Rittenhouse from taking the gun that night, records show.

“(The friend) thought in his head he could have stopped it, but he knew if he would have told Kyle ‘no’, he (Rittenhouse) would have thrown a fit,” the police report said.

The reports indicate the friend also worried the he could be held responsible for the shootings.

“(The friend) stated after the shooting he spoke with Kyle and told Kyle that he (the friend) believed he (the friend) was going to be in more trouble than Kyle,” the records said. “He told Kyle that he (Rittenhouse) was defending himself and said he told Kyle, ‘In all reality, you are not supposed to have the gun. That gun was in my name.’”

Antioch police later interviewed the friend’s stepfather, who begrudgingly had allowed the rifle to be stored at his house. He told police he did not approve of his stepson purchasing the gun for Rittenhouse, who was a minor, and so he kept it in a locked safe in his garage.

After Blake’s shooting by police, the man said he moved the gun into his basement for his own “personal protection.”

The man said he went to work Aug. 25 ― the day of the Kenosha protest shootings ― and his stepson called. His stepson said he and Rittenhouse had been hired by a downtown business to perform security, and he needed to borrow sandpaper for graffiti removal.

The friend’s stepfather said he did not realize the rifle was missing from his home until Aug. 26, as he was preparing to leave town for a week due to the demonstrations, according to the police report.

Authorities have said Rittenhouse will not face gun charges in Illinois because the Smith & Wesson AR-15 .223 caliber rifle “was purchased, stored and used in Wisconsin” and they turned up no evidence the 17-year-old “physically possessed” the weapon here. Neither Rittenhouse nor his mother possess the firearm owner’s identification cards required to keep a gun in Illinois, according to the police reports.

Rittenhouse’s case has become a cause célèbre for gun rights advocates and militia groups throughout the country since his arrest in late August. In laying the groundwork for a self-defense argument, the teen’s attorneys have painted him as a young patriot who wanted to protect the community and the victim of political conspiracy.

In court records filed before his extradition hearing Friday, Rittenhouse’s attorney indicated that his mother could testify about the circumstances surrounding his arrest in their bid to keep the teenager from being sent to Wisconsin to face murder charges. However, she never took the stand and, after dry legal arguments, a Lake County judge ordered he be extradited.

A high school dropout with a deep interest in law enforcement, Rittenhouse lives with his mother and sisters in a modest Antioch apartment complex located about 20 minutes from Kenosha. His attorneys say he went to Kenosha after his lifeguarding shift Aug. 25 to help remove graffiti drawn during the ongoing unrest and later responded to a local business owner’s request for help protecting his establishment.

Armed with an assault rifle, Rittenhouse walked up and down the downtown streets with little pushback from local police. At one point, officers in an armored vehicle tossed bottles of water to Rittenhouse and other armed civilians. Though the people were clearly violating the city’s 8 p.m. curfew and Rittenhouse is too young to openly carry a firearm in Wisconsin, the officer expressed his gratitude for the group.

“We appreciate you guys,” the officer said. “We really do.”

In an interview with the Daily Caller that night, Rittenhouse refers to his presence as his “job” and explains his self-appointed responsibilities in policelike vernacular.

“People are getting injured and our job is to protect this business,” Rittenhouse says in the 19-second clip. “And part of my job also is to protect people. If someone is hurt, I’m running into harm’s way. That’s why I have my rifle; I’ve gotta protect myself obviously.”

With his mother present in the interview room, Kenosha detectives questioned Rittenhouse in Antioch for roughly four hours, stopping once for a coffee break and a second time because the teen had trouble breathing, according to police reports.

Antioch police took him into custody around 8 a.m. on a fugitive warrant and took him to a juvenile detention center in Lake County. He remained there until his extradition back to Wisconsin on Friday afternoon.

Please understand there is no record of him being hired to protect any business by anyone.  He was simply buying into the media militia thug hype that they were the true patriots that needed to protect the real people and their property.   Also it is a fact he accosted a person walking through a well known parking lot cut through to a different street and demanded that person answer questions and prove why he was there.   A 17 year old with a gun feeling his thug oats with no authority other than the gun.    The man told him off and insulted him.   Then Rittenhouse encountered the second man walking through the same parking lot.  Maybe being stung from the first encounter Rittenhouse again using no authority but his gun challenged another person walking through the same parking lot.   This person argued with him and may have insulted him also.   There are reports of a plastic bag being thrown that came nowhere close to Rittenhouse.   Witnessnesses say that Rittenhouse shot this person in the head.   It is unknown if he intended too, if he got angry, or if he got scared.    He called his friend and told him he had just killed someone.   When people started to yell what he did and started chasing him that was when he ran with people chasing him.   It is important to understand that he had already pretended he was some sort of police, he had already killed someone, and so anything he did after that is not legal to escape.  

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4 thoughts on “Kyle Rittenhouse cried, vomited and worried about social media as he told Antioch cops, ‘I shot two white kids’

  1. Nan October 31, 2020 / 18:03

    From some of the interview comments in your post, it sounds like he’s a VERY immature 17-year-old and really has NO CLUE what he’s done. To be more worried about what the social media is saying? C’mon !!!

    IMO, the ONLY way he might not face a severe sentence would be because of his inability to assess the actual result of his actions.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Scottie November 1, 2020 / 07:04

      Hello Nan. I agree. it is a tragedy in many ways. There is no win here, for anyone. I wish this could be used as a teaching moment, a call for better gun control. But the right, especially the Christian right tripled down and raised nearly a million dollars, the last I seen, for Rittenhouse. The racists have made him a hero. He was used all way around, and it is clear he is not very smart. He was indoctrinated as a gullible young teen, and all the adults around him taught him to respect authoritarianism, gun culture, might makes right. He saw the police as a powerful ruling body. Then he was guided into racism and far right militia ideas looking for some place to belong. He was simply looking for a place to belong and these far right groups snagged him up.
      How much would have been different if a progressive group had been there to give him a place to be. Look how in the videos he was so eager to be front and center when the police were talking to the militia thugs, he was like a puppy seeking petting. He was living a fantasy that was about to become a nightmare for a lot of people.

      We need to acknowledge the fact that none of this would have happened if not for the constant drum beat of fear and hate from the SPTV and right wing media. If the thug cosplay pretend tough boys militias had not been encouraged by the police to be there this wouldn’t have happened. The police could have stopped this by doing their job instead of farming it out to the thugs hoping the thugs would beat up the protestors. The police got what they wanted and more. So much for serve and protect.

      Sadly the justice system is not prepared to handle this, it is much deeper than the crime that happened. But if he is not punished, not held accountable it will show white privilege and favoritism. As I said, there is no winning here for anyone. Hugs

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  2. silverapplequeen November 1, 2020 / 04:21

    WHAT KIND OF A @#$%& BUSINESS HIRES A 17-YR-BOY AS “PROTECTION”?

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Scottie November 1, 2020 / 08:45

      Hello Polly. I agree. I doubt anyone really hired him. The talking point of the gang thug terrorist militia was that they were there to protect businesses. I think in his mind the kid thought he really was some kind semi-police with authority instead of just a kid with a gun cosplaying a hero. Hugs

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