It is pointless to ask from the gods what one is fully able to attain for oneself
Epicurus (or his follower Lucretius)
Robert M. Persig:
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion.
No god was ever in advance of the nation that created him.
Robert Green Ingersoll. The Gods / From ‘The Gods and Other Lectures’
Evil and good are the necessary effects of natural causes. What is a god who can change nothing?
Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.
Jean Meslier
The doctrine that future happiness depends upon belief is monstrous. It is the infamy of infamies. The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation, and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance, called “faith.”
Robert Green Ingersoll. The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll
Hello Cagjr. I agree with the quotes. I went to a religious boarding school my senior year. I was not really religious nor a good student. The science teacher was a scientist who worked for NASA on the moon shots / landing and still did projects for them back then. One of the things he taught back in 1980 / 81 was that God gave us brains capable of learning and discovering and he would want us to use them. He provided us the means, but wanted us to do the work was the idea. That idea seems to have gone away now.
One more quote I like:
With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil—that takes religion.
Here is what my friends and I think about that:
It is pointless to ask from the gods what one is fully able to attain for oneself
Epicurus (or his follower Lucretius)
Robert M. Persig:
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion.
No god was ever in advance of the nation that created him.
Robert Green Ingersoll. The Gods / From ‘The Gods and Other Lectures’
Evil and good are the necessary effects of natural causes. What is a god who can change nothing?
Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.
Jean Meslier
The doctrine that future happiness depends upon belief is monstrous. It is the infamy of infamies. The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation, and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance, called “faith.”
Robert Green Ingersoll. The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll
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Hello Cagjr. I agree with the quotes. I went to a religious boarding school my senior year. I was not really religious nor a good student. The science teacher was a scientist who worked for NASA on the moon shots / landing and still did projects for them back then. One of the things he taught back in 1980 / 81 was that God gave us brains capable of learning and discovering and he would want us to use them. He provided us the means, but wanted us to do the work was the idea. That idea seems to have gone away now.
One more quote I like:
With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil—that takes religion.
By Steven Weinberg
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