AIDS argument used as Arizona House votes to let businesses ignore mask mandates

Republicans in control of the Arizona House voted to allow mask rules to be ignored after hearing argument they weren’t needed decades ago to stop the spread of AIDS.

 A lawmaker persuaded the Arizona House to let businesses ignore mask mandates to stem COVID spread partly by arguing they weren’t needed decades ago to stop the spread of AIDS.

On a 31-28 party-line vote Wednesday, the Republican-controlled House approved legislation that says business owners need not enforce any state, city, town or county requirement for people to wear a mask.

The measure now goes to the GOP-controlled Senate.

The sponsor, Rep. Joseph Chaplik, a first-term Republican legislator from Scottsdale, said his House Bill 2770 would give businesses the choice of whether to enforce the mandates that many communities already adopted.


He said consumers then would have the option of deciding if they want to do business there.

“It’s about the individual rights of these business owners as Americans,” Chaplik said.

The vote came over the objections of several lawmakers who said the measure ignores evidence of how masks, properly worn, help curb the spread of the coronavirus that has so far killed half a million people in the United States, including more than 16,000 in Arizona.


Rep. Randall Friese, a Tucson Democrat who is a physician, said masks are part of the “very basic, important tools,” along with hand-washing and social distancing, to curb the spread.


Chaplik, however, argued that the mandates are an overreaction and that society has managed to survive other viral outbreaks without masks.

For example, he cited HIV “that was going to wipe our global destruction of human bodies with AIDS.”


“We heard about that in the ’80s,” Chaplik said. “Yet no masks were required.”

Medical consensus is that HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, is spread through exchange of bodily fluids, usually through sexual transmission or through the sharing of infected needles. It is not spread by air or water, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.


Chaplik went on to tell colleagues to look at what’s happening elsewhere, as he tried to disprove the claims that masks help prevent COVID-19 spread.


“Nebraska never had a mask mandate,” he said. He said the same is true in places like Mississippi and Georgia.

“I would think that based on these arguments these states would have dead people piled up all over their state because no one else would be living because no one has masks on,” Chaplik continued.

Rep. Bret Roberts, R-Maricopa, made a similar claim. Roberts said he’s heard a figure that something like 90% of Arizona is covered by some local mask mandate, even though there is no statewide mandate.


“If they work, how are people still catching COVID?” Roberts asked.

Other Republicans who voted for the bill did not openly challenge the effectiveness of masks, properly worn, in preventing the spread of disease.

Instead, they said the legislation is a matter of individual rights.

“It allows adults to be adults,” said Rep. Kevin Payne, R-Peoria.


Rep. Travis Grantham, R-Gilbert, echoed that sentiment.

“The bill doesn’t say ‘masks don’t work,’” he said. “The bill gives business owners … the right to make a decision.”


Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, had a slightly different take.

“This bill is simply about not making 16-year-old waiters and waitresses police officers enforcing a criminal mask statute,” he said.

Rep. Diego Rodriguez, D-Phoenix, said Chaplik is wrong in arguing that mask mandates are an example of government overreach.

“Mask mandates are a textbook example of the government ensuring one of its fundamental purposes, which is guarding the public health and safety,” Rodriguez said. He said allowing people to ignore such an order sends a bad message.

“What you are essentially saying is that individual business owner has the right to place every other member of his community at risk of infection,” Rodriguez said. “It won’t matter if other businesses insist on a mask if two or three or even one seller decides not to use a mask because you nullify the effect of the unified effort.”


But Rep. David Cook, R-Globe, said the purpose of the bill is simple.

“It’s driven to the free-market and property rights issue given your constitutional rights to pursue your dreams in this country and in this state,” he said.

This is a difficult decision, said Rep. Joanne Osborne, R-Goodyear, who owns a jewelry store with the family name.

She said her employees wear masks. Despite that, some did get sick, forcing the closure of the store.

“I have had friends die of COVID,” Osborne said. And she said that, as a member of the board of a local hospital, she has seen the effects of the disease.


Osborne also said there are other mandates on business that are accepted, like having sprinklers and fire extinguishers.

But Osborne, who provided the crucial — and required — 31st vote for the measure, said she had to side with her colleagues.

In other words Osborne knew that she must ignore science and common sense and vote with the other Republicans or suffer the consequences.     Hugs

2 thoughts on “AIDS argument used as Arizona House votes to let businesses ignore mask mandates

  • I’m getting really sick and tired of this phrase: “It’s about individual rights.” Of course we all want to be able to do things in life that please US as “individuals.” But there are rules and regulations and laws that have been put into place by the governing powers which have been designed to protect ALL of us.

    But noooo. Some people (usually the ones who like to wear “red”) seem to think life should be a free-for-all and let the chips fall where they may. As Jill would say … Grrrrrr!

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    • Hello Nan. Well said. I agree and I wonder what happened to their ability to reason. If they can be required to wear shoes, shirts, and pants, then they also can be required to wear masks. Also what happened to their sense of responsibility? They talk of their rights constantly but never their duty / responsibility to others in society. Shared sacrifice? It is a race now to be as selfish as possible. Hugs

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