93 thoughts on “True Facts: Deception in the Rainforest

    • Hello Nan. Yes I understand. The narrator does very humorous but informative videos on off beat animals and fish. I love them. He has had to tone them down this last 8 months with YouTubes new rules. But they are still funny. Hugs

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        • Hello SoundEagle. The videos are entertaining aren’t they. I have been following his channel for a long time. His asides and quips with the never seen Jerry, his naming and giving the subject names, his creating friends or enemies of the subjects all create a very funny learning environment. Some of his videos are so funny I have watched them several times. Hugs

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          • Yes, these videos are terrific to attract laypersons who are interested in biology. However, they are quite superficial in their scientific contents. At most, they are mere introductions or “gateway drugs” to far more serious and enlightening investigations and discussions about biology, zoology and ecology. Come and take the time to get a really good sense of scientific writing in my said post entitled “Do Plants and Insects Coevolve? 🥀🐝🌺🦋”, which contains many illustrations, photos and videos.

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            • Hello SoundEagle. Often times a small sampling is better than a double helping heaping plate full. Most people enjoy the overview and get lost in the in depth look unless they are deeply interested in the subject. I subscribe to a YouTube channel called Deep Look. They keep their videos really short for just that reason. They do go much deeper than their other videos but they also make sure they do not overwhelm the viewers. Hugs

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              • Dear Scottie,

                There are huge qualitative and quantitative differences between relying on such small samplings (which is most or all of the time for you) and truly perusing substantive scientific/academic writings (which is still very rare or uncommon for you).

                You will indeed learn so much more holistically if you were to avail yourself the chance to read my said post, which has so far garnered 447 likes and 157 comments. That this post has received such a high degree of response from both academics and laypersons is a very good indications of its quality and validity. You will also find reading some or all of the comments there highly illuminating.

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                  • Dear Nan,

                    Quoted from my extensive post entitled The Quotation Fallacy “💬”:

                    … such an assertion, often in the form of “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, may function or masquerade as a defense mechanism to reaffirm a confirmation bias, or as a refusal to participate in logical discussions, reasoned arguments, efficacious adjudications, holistic assessments or constructive criticisms, especially when the assertion is expressed as, or accompanied by, some stereotype, platitude, truism, truthiness, bromide, red herring or thought-terminating cliché to sidetrack other spectra of opinion, to divert attention away from other lines of thought, or to mislead or distract (a project or debate) from a relevant, central or important issue.

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                  • Hello Nan. I just replied to SoundEagle. I wrote things out explaining why the post was not for me. I took three paragraphs. You summed it up In 5 words. I love it. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      Good on you for using three paragraphs instead of just five words!

                      It is all too easy to just use such expressions as “To each his/her own.” There are many problems involved in such or similar expressions, as I have quoted myself before my extensive post entitled The Quotation Fallacy “💬” as follows:

                      … such an assertion, often in the form of “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, may function or masquerade as a defense mechanism to reaffirm a confirmation bias, or as a refusal to participate in logical discussions, reasoned arguments, efficacious adjudications, holistic assessments or constructive criticisms, especially when the assertion is expressed as, or accompanied by, some stereotype, platitude, truism, truthiness, bromide, red herring or thought-terminating cliché to sidetrack other spectra of opinion, to divert attention away from other lines of thought, or to mislead or distract (a project or debate) from a relevant, central or important issue.

                      Yes, it is very dense, and I have no time to unpack them all here. Often, many of the expressions and reasonings that people use are far from justified and unproblematic, and often they do not realize that.

                      To put it succinctly, the likes of Nan acknowledge who you are or who you wish to be; whilst the likes of SoundEagle also do so, but at the same time encourage you to be more.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I disagree with you. Have you heard the term word salad? I wrote in a comment on your blog that paraphrased said you used far too many examples of the things you talk about causing people just stop paying attention. The above in italics is an example of that. people lose the thread of what you are trying to say.

                      However when you responded to Nan with that above word salad I think this is what Nan was saying to you. …as a refusal to participate… To each their own is a way of saying not everyone enjoys the same things, and not every one wants such in depth detailed essays to read. Some do and some do not. To each their own. It is not always a defense mechanism, it is simply live and let live.

                      There are different styles and ideas about writing. Some are very verbose. Some are tight. I admit in fleshing out a point I sometimes add too much information, and when I do that it tends to ruin the point for my intended audience and those following along. I preferer tighter writing that still expresses the point well.

                      Thank you for the encouragement to be more but that is a back handed complement isn’t it? I agree people should continue to grow as humans but you are not the only one to encourage me. You do it in your style, but if you notice so does Nan in hers. Also many others who come here. By discussion we add to each other, even in disagreement as we learn to justify our ideas. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I have not mentioned that “To each his/her own.” is just a defensive mechanism. Please kindly re-read what I typed.

                      To answer your question, no, I have not delivered any backhanded compliments to you. If I really wanted to dish out sarcastic or facetious statements, then you would really know and be hit by it right in the face.

                      I would like to think that my studies of social and bahavioural sciences have not been in vain, and I do know that how people respond to certain things are often a function of their upbringing, socialization and education (level), and there are indeed considerable variations in styles, ideas, behaviours, expressions, beliefs, likes, dislikes and so on; and they are not all equal and/or equally unproblematic or justifiable. I have no time to elaborate more here.

                      Thank you for your understanding.

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I am not disparaging your education nor your studies. However while you say what you have not done, you seem to not want to acknowledge the point I was making that is I felt that was what you were doing, other than seeming to blame the ones your words were directed towards? As I said it is how we are hearing you. Had I been accused of being misunderstood I would have responded with an apology such as a statement that I was sorry I was not more clear in what I wrote. Then I would attempt to be more clear.

                      But the reason I am replying to your comment even though we have already talked this out, is I am curious about your first paragraph and I really want to be sure I understand you.

                      Are you saying you have not mention that it is a defensive statement, because you did that several times. Below is what you have pasted several times in reply.

                      … such an assertion, often in the form of “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, may function or masquerade as a defense mechanism to reaffirm a confirmation bias, or as a refusal to participate in logical discussions, reasoned arguments, efficacious adjudications, holistic assessments or constructive criticisms, especially when the assertion is expressed as, or accompanied by, some stereotype, platitude, truism, truthiness, bromide, red herring or thought-terminating cliché to sidetrack other spectra of opinion, to divert attention away from other lines of thought, or to mislead or distract (a project or debate) from a relevant, central or important issue.

                      Or did I misunderstand your reply? Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I have already requested that you read all of my comments in this post rather than reading and replying one by one, which has repeatedly causing you to have inadequate understanding of the larger totality, and as a result, affecting the validity and cogency of your replies.

                      Again, please kindly read my writings carefully as I do not wish to have to keep correcting you. If you have been more careful, you would have realized that I was stating that the “word salad”, as you put it, is not JUST about defensive mechanism. Let me repeat here what I wrote earlier to you:

                      Your characterisation or explanation of Nan’s expression “To each his/her own.” seems to be reasonable but is in fact very problematic. And it is problematic not just because you have not understood my very dense “word salad” (to use your own words) and have tried to couch it as my deeming the issue regarding Nan’s statement to be just a defence mechanism on Nan’s part. It is problematic also because there is much more to consider as follows, and this is merely one of the reasons as to why I have encouraged you to really go against your grain from time to time, and not necessarily always in the manner and scope in which you involved yourself in this regard. Otherwise, you will continue to drive the same intellectual and cognitive car and therefore will tend to jump to certain problematic conclusions, connections and/or associations in the manner, pattern and scope as you did, not just here but also in some of the comments that you submitted to my main blog.

                      The liberty, or rather, the flippancy by which a great number of regular folks are willing to defend or promote their positions, views or perspectives — when they knowingly circumvent much needed examination of, or justifiable objection to, their holding those positions, views or perspectives — by deploying such quotations or similar statements as “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “My choice. Not yours.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, “There is no right or wrong.”, “Everyone is different.”, “Everyone is equal.” and “Everybody or anybody is entitled to their choices, opinions and views.”, is a very clear indication that those folks are in flagrant disregard or ignorance of the everyday reality that people’s choices, opinions, views and decisions are by no means (guaranteed to be) equal, equitable, acceptable, reasonable, justifiable, defensible, cogent, unproblematic, unselfish and so on, even when universal criteria or wholesale yardsticks can be established and agreed upon. After all, those who are decent and reasonable would have great difficulty in condoning or rationalizing the choices, opinions and views of sociopaths, psychopaths, tormentors, murderers, dictators, swindlers, rapists, bullies, simpletons, bigots, misogynists, racists, hatemongers, and other characters of disrepute. Choices, opinions, views, decisions and even moral concepts and values are only ever going to be cogent and meaningful when applied in relation to something, and when contexts are taken into account, since if all choices, opinions, views, decisions and values were indiscriminately allowed or arbitrarily deemed equal then there would be utter chaos. Of course, people are always going to have different opinions and views, which invariably inform, influence, shape or dictate their lives, decisions and actions. Illustrating this unavoidable fact of life very well is the Chinese idiom or proverb “議論紛紛,莫衷一是,然又引經據典,公有公理,婆有婆理。”, which means that there are plenty of arguments and no one is in agreement even after quoting scriptures and citing classics, much like a man or husband versus a woman or wife, each having their own reason, truth or logic. It goes without saying that a cat will think and do as a cat does, whereas a dog will likewise think and do as a dog does. It can be concluded that people who utter the abovementioned relativistic quotations or statements are essentially presenting hardly any (useful or helpful) information, considering that such blanket quotations or sweeping statements connote and signify very little about anything, being intrinsically devoid of insight and explanatory power, to the extent that their contents are as limited, deficient, commonplace, quotidian, vacuous or superfluous as those of an utterly well-known and invariant fact as “The sun rises from the east.” Not only do such quotations or statements contain little or no information, they also erroneously impart a false sense, or an arbitrary notion, of relativity, entitlement, democracy, arbitration, equality or fairness without qualification, discernment and distinction.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I have just sent you an email entitled “Read All of My Comments First Before Replying” containing the following message:

                      Dear Scottie,

                      In at least two of the newer comments that you have not yet read, I have requested that you read all of my comments in this post first rather than reading and replying one by one, which have repeatedly caused you to have inadequate understanding of the larger totality, and as a result, affecting the validity and cogency of your replies.

                      Also, you don’t have to reply to all of my comments. In fact, it is OK to stop replying to anymore comments in this post now, if you like.

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I figured out a while ago there was nothing more to be said, and it seems that comprehension is lacking on both sides. I have not felt well since Wednesday so have not answered any comments until now. But I was not planning on addressing this issue again. I feel you have not heard what I have been saying, you feel the same in reverse. It is been hashed to death. I do not feel like assigning blame nor listing perceived faults, but I will say your continuation to assert that all others lack the ability to comprehend your wisdom and superiority of thought is most annoying to deal with. If I had multiple people tell me I was wrong or not being understood I wouldn’t blame them, I would look at my own actions / words.

                      But enough, the subject is done. Best wishes to all and to all a great weekend for everyone. Hugs

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                    • Hello Nan. Oh boy did my temper start to flare. I just got to the comment and answered it. I could have shattered ice cubes in my teeth I was so disgusted. I have argued for long days with people able to bring far more facts to the table ( tildeb for example ) and to accuse me tampering with comments … Gggrrrr

                      But I think it is a face saving thing. It seems, and I could be wrong, but as SoundEagle has not been willing to hear anything anyone else has said maybe this is what he needs to do to withdraw from the conversation? If so I am sorry for him but willing to let it go. We all have our issues. Hugs

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                    • Hello Nan. I am off to bed. I have to be up in the morning early to install a new TV tuner to the video computer and then to program it to record my Sunday news programs. My old one was a dual and this one is a quad. Twice as much news !!!! Have a great night. Hugs

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. Stop right there! This is a serious charge I wont take.

                      I do not tamper with comments. I do not edit comments unless I make a public note of it. I have a policy of not allowing ad hominem attack on other commenters, and that is the only time I censor or block comments.

                      I have not deleted nor changed any of your comments, even while I think they were arrogant and condescending. I have let you have your say in its entirety.

                      I don’t know if this is a bid to save face and stop commenting here. If so fine. You may stop commenting as you wish. I was even prepared to give you the last word on the running conversation as you seem to demand it. I said we had hashed the subject to death. But I will not let this accusation go unchallenged.

                      SoundEagle. My comment section is set by WordPress to their standard. I must approve the first comment from a person’s ID such as their email address. Once I approve the first comment they are then put on an automatic approved list, and can comment as they wish with out any action on my part. I like this because I have been ill for months and often can not get to my comments for days.

                      You have enjoyed this privilege even sending me an email that I was responding late to comments you had already written more afterward, so you know this is true. You asked me to catch up to you, so you know you could comment with out me even knowing.

                      What is the real game here SoundEagle? Are you upset I called you out? Is this your face saving way to back out of any further discussion?

                      I do not want to think of you that petty. But I have to say that such an accusation from you on top of refusing to acknowledge how others have seen your comments does seem suspicious. So lets cut to the chase. Nothing has changed on my blogs comment settings and my positions have not changed. I am not afraid of you nor bowed by you. I do not think you are anywhere as superior as you think your self to be. I have been far more tolerant with you and your attitude than many people have asked me to be. When I told you how you were coming across it was because people were telling me that you were sounding that way.

                      So you can either keep commenting or stop commenting, it really is up to you. If you keep reading the blog you do, if you don’t, well … nice to have known ya. I do wish you well, I am not a petty nor vain person and I am very secure in my self and my accomplishments. I have been under live fire in East Berlin and I have the awards to show for it. Everything else is gravy or a cake walk. Be well. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I have advised you to read all of my comments first before replying and yet you keep making the same mistake of not reading ahead beforehand, and only reading and replying to one by one, and thereofre missing a lot of details. As I have mentioned, you do exhibit some responses and behavioral patterns that are problematic, and not just with regards to what or how you have recently commented.

                      I am going to disregard most or all of the contents in your previous comment.

                      There are at least three missing or deleted comments of mine. As i mentioned, go and check As I mentioned in another comment that you have not yet read at this point in time, if my missing comments are not (yet) permanently deleted, or are relegated by mistake (by you or WordPress) to the spam folder of your WordPress account, then you can resurrect the comments at https://scottiestoybox.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=trash or https://scottiestoybox.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=spam

                      The comments need to be untrashed or unspammed and also require your approval before they will show up properly.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I would like to alert you to two more missing comments. The following are the links to my third and fourth comments that are missing:

                      https://scottiestoybox.com/2021/03/07/true-facts-deception-in-the-rainforest/#comment-116142

                      https://scottiestoybox.com/2021/03/07/true-facts-deception-in-the-rainforest/#comment-116190

                      As you can see, these two comments have also disappeared from your post. I resubmitted them and they still do not appear in the post.

                      This matter is very inconvenient and disconcerting, regardless of what is causing the disappearance.

                      Those comments of mine are highly detailed and have taken a lot of time, effort and care to compose!

                      And there could be more that I have yet to identify as missing.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      There is no need to assert here who has or has not the ability to comprehend others’ wisdom and superiority of thought, or how many people side with you or me or anybody for that matter. The proof is in the pudding of what we write, communicate or comment —- and tampering or deleting comments in the process of civil communication is highly unethical and reprehensible, especially after my being a solid contributor on your blog for years and my championing or supporting what you blog.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I am once again re-submitting this comment as it is missing or deleted. Please kindly preserve my comments.

                      In addition, whether there are or have been others who encouraged you (in their own ways) is beside the point, insofar as when I encourage you, it does not automatically mean that you (or anybody else for that matter) will necessarily know that I am or have been doing so; or that my encouragement(s) will be recognized, heeded, appreciated, understood and/or taken seriously at all or unproblematically, let alone be misrepresented, misunderstood, trashed and/or regarded as backhanded compliments, or as a (veiled or overt) attempt at getting visitors to my blog(s) — rather than as the benevolent gesture and/or open invitation from someone who understands and really cares about you and your growth, not even necessarily in the manner and scope that you have always preferred, practised, contemplated, assumed and/or imagined.

                      In any case, thank you for finally acknowledging my encouraging you, albeit belatedly.

                      Your characterisation or explanation of Nan’s expression “To each his/her own.” seems to be reasonable but is in fact very problematic. And it is problematic not just because you have not understood my very dense “word salad” (to use your own words) and have tried to couch it as my deeming the issue regarding Nan’s statement to be just a defense mechanism on Nan’s part. It is problematic also because there is much more to consider as follows, and this is merely one of the reasons as to why I have encouraged you to really go against your grain from time to time, and not necessarily always in the manner and scope in which you involved yourself in this regard. Otherwise, you will continue to drive the same intellectual and cognitive car and therefore will tend to jump to certain problematic conclusions, connections and/or associations in the manner, pattern and scope as you did, not just here but also in some of the comments that you submitted to my main blog.

                      The liberty, or rather, the flippancy by which a great number of regular folks are willing to defend or promote their positions, views or perspectives — when they knowingly circumvent much needed examination of, or justifiable objection to, their holding those positions, views or perspectives — by deploying such quotations or similar statements as “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “My choice. Not yours.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, “There is no right or wrong.”, “It’s just (a matter of) opinion or cultural difference.”, “Everyone is different.”, “Everyone is equal.” and “Everybody or anybody is entitled to their choices, opinions and views.”, is a very clear indication that those folks are in flagrant disregard or ignorance of the everyday reality that people’s choices, opinions, views and decisions are by no means (guaranteed to be) equal, equitable, acceptable, reasonable, justifiable, defensible, cogent, unproblematic, unselfish and so on, even when universal criteria or wholesale yardsticks can be established and agreed upon. After all, those who are decent and reasonable would have great difficulty in condoning or rationalizing the choices, opinions and views of sociopaths, psychopaths, tormentors, murderers, dictators, swindlers, rapists, bullies, simpletons, bigots, misogynists, racists, hatemongers, and other characters of disrepute. Choices, opinions, views, decisions and even moral concepts and values are only ever going to be cogent and meaningful when applied in relation to something, and when contexts are taken into account, since if all choices, opinions, views, decisions and values were indiscriminately allowed or arbitrarily deemed equal then there would be utter chaos. Of course, people are always going to have different opinions and views, which invariably inform, influence, shape or dictate their lives, decisions and actions. Illustrating this unavoidable fact of life very well is the Chinese idiom or proverb “議論紛紛,莫衷一是,然又引經據典,公有公理,婆有婆理。”, which means that there are plenty of arguments and no one is in agreement even after quoting scriptures and citing classics, much like a man or husband versus a woman or wife, each having their own reason, truth or logic. It goes without saying that a cat will think and do as a cat does, whereas a dog will likewise think and do as a dog does. It can be concluded that people who utter the abovementioned relativistic quotations or statements are essentially presenting hardly any (useful or helpful) information, considering that such blanket quotations or sweeping statements connote and signify very little about anything, being intrinsically devoid of insight and explanatory power, to the extent that their contents are as limited, deficient, commonplace, quotidian, vacuous or superfluous as those of an utterly well-known and invariant fact as “The sun rises from the east.” Not only do such quotations or statements contain little or no information, they also erroneously impart a false sense, or an arbitrary notion, of relativity, entitlement, democracy, arbitration, equality or fairness without qualification, discernment and distinction.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      SoundEagle

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                    • If, however, my missing comments are not (yet) permanently deleted, or are relegated by mistake to the spam folder of your WordPress account, then you can resurrect the comments at https://scottiestoybox.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=trash or https://scottiestoybox.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=spam

                      The comments need to be untrashed or unspammed and also require your approval before they will show up properly.

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I think you are sadly confused. I have changed nothing, and by your own email to me I am behind on your comments to me, meaning they were posted with out my participation. I do not know what your game is here? I simply do not do what you seem to be accusing me of. If your comments went to spam it is because you added more than three links which is the standard for WordPress, more than three links goes to spam. That is because so many assholes spam porn links. But you should know that. If you sent a comment that has links, resend it with only two per comment, then get the hell off your high horse. Hugs

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                    • Let me repeat: the ones that I have identified as missing do not contain any links at all. They just contain textual comments.

                      It could be that these comments have been consigned as spams because I have used Chinese words in all of them. These missing comments all have Chinese words/characters.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      On the contrary, you are the one who are “sadly confused” and still in the dark, even after I have repeatedly cautioned you both by comment and by email!

                      Since you keep reading and replying to comments in a serial fashion, only looking at one comment at a time without reading ahead to see and understand pertinent information even when there are multiple, successive comments submitted as a close-knit set of related comments, you are going to keep missing a lot of details, and keep making comments that are flawed and lack cogency as a result. In the worst-case scenario, you will find yourself derailed and/or having to retract some highly problematic statement(s) or claims.

                      As I have mentioned, you do exhibit some responses and behavioural patterns that are problematic and/or counterproductive, and not just with regards to what or how you have recently commented. And as I have mentioned, you have yet to make a concerted effort or rely on some dependable means to address those issues, even when I have gone to the trouble of warning you ahead of “trouble” by sending you an email requesting you to read ahead, and yet, you still refuse to heed my advice.

                      Now, the issues are compounded not only because you have so many comments unread and you reply to them one by one, but also because there is now the added problem of missing comments of which you are not even aware, and you are still dependent on your faithful and conscientious SoundEagle to alert and advise you of what is going on.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      Furthermore, at least two days have passed, and any reasonable person will promptly address these issues, especially regarding the specific matter of missing comments.

                      Yet, after multiple comments from me to keep you abreast of what has happened and to keep you updated, plus even going to the trouble of handing you the very solution on a silver platter to you, so to speak, by giving you the very links to two of the administrative pages of your WordPress account so that you may untrash or unspam the said comments, you still have not make an effort to address those issues and also resurrect the missing comments, not to mention having to read and deal with those problematic comments of yours. Most if not all of these issues could have been avoided or at least attenuated or alleviated if have bothered to read ahead before replying and jumping to conclusions, and to heed and address some or all of the issues promptly before more issues surface and/or get compounded.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I am resubmitting this comment to fix some typos.

                      Furthermore, at least two days have passed, and any reasonable person will promptly address these issues, especially regarding the specific matter of missing comments.

                      Yet, after multiple comments from me to keep you abreast of what has happened and to keep you updated, plus even going to the trouble of handing you the very solution on a silver platter to you, so to speak, by giving you the very links to two of the administrative pages of your WordPress account so that you may untrash or unspam the said comments, you still have not make an effort to address those issues and also resurrect the missing comments, not to mention my having to read and deal with those problematic comments of yours. Most if not all of these issues could have been avoided or at least attenuated or alleviated if you have bothered to read ahead before replying and jumping to conclusions, and to heed and address some or all of the issues promptly before more issues surface and/or get compounded.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      How many more times are you going to jump to conclusions and/or to make very unwise and/or uneducated guess? The list is getting longer. Amongst the issues on the list include but not limited to: reading and replying to comments without reading ahead to gain much fuller understanding; your previously wondering, contemplating or thinking that I have Asperger syndrome or autism; claiming that I have given you backhanded compliments; your using false analogy, false equivalence and/or false balance in quite a number of your statements to equate and/or conflate certain of my statements or situations as being on the par or being the reverse or converse of yours; and now even claiming in your comment(s) to Nan that I could be trying to save face (for some or whatever reason(s)) by bringing up the issues of missing comments whilst you have so far still not made an effort to resurrect those comments. One indeed wonders whether you have stopped for a moment to think that your approach could potentially lead to even more hurt, misunderstanding and misrepresentation; and whether you have ever properly attributed or recognized the true source and cause of your annoyance and/or frustration.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      When people have the shock of discovering that (some of) their latest (and perhaps also their best and/or longest) comments have been missing or deleted, and they promptly inform you of what has happened in great detail over many comments and even provide you with the solution, and they confide in you that they cannot in good conscience continue to have any further conversation with you via commenting if you cannot guarantee that their comments will not again disappear (for whatever reason(s)) without promptly retrieving those comments, it is very unbecoming and inconsiderate of you to have the confronting audacity of jumping to conclusions and assuming that people are upset because you call them out and they are trying to save face!

                      Please kindly think and be kind for a moment. People are upset because their long and meticulously composed comments have not been successfully submitted and appeared in the comment section of your post. Please be considerate and not summarily pour ashes on their faces when they are already feeling upset and dejected, and when what they really need is your understanding and your retrieving those missing comments promptly.

                      Please stop conflating issues and jumping to conclusions! Would you have made such problematic and unkind statements had I happened to inform you about missing comments a month ago?

                      Furthermore, we both have submitted a great deal more comments lately and the chance of something unexpected happening to some of our comments will be correspondingly much higher as a result.

                      Correlation does not imply causation.

                      It is just all too easy and convenient to simply attribute or equate something to be the reason or explanation that you want or expect, especailly if or when you have the intention of painting their characters in lesser light and/or soiling their honour or integrity.

                      I have been trying to educate you in various ways with good intention and conscience, and good advice seems to have fallen on deaf ear, not to mention my being grossly misrepresented.

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                    • SoundEagle. Stop! You have had your say and I am done with your attitude! The day I want to be treated like an 8 year old I sure the hell won’t call you to do it! You have entered my home as a guest and have been rude and insulting. Not a very good way for a guest to behave I would say.

                      I have tried every way nice to get it through to you that you are coming across as an arrogant pompous prick, and I have had enough of it!

                      I most certainly would respond the same way to your missing comment question because the first I seen of it was an accusation from you.

                      Since some of my comments are missing or deleted, I cannot in any good conscience continue to communicate with you when you cannot guarantee that my comments will be preserved and not deleted or tampered with.

                      You have yet to see you were wrong nor apologize for the above.

                      The proper way to handle this is to ask the blog host if they might have seen the comment and ask them to check, not start out with a rant that you feel your comments have been altered or deleted. No comment is so important that it requires all that has transpired.

                      Today I went looking and found the repeated comments stuck in the spam files. I do not set the spam folder options other than the number of allowed links, I do not look in the spam filter unless asked. I have been asked before and asked nicely. That did not happen this time. I have no idea why they went to spam, and frankly I don’t care. The comments were another essay of your feelings of greatness and aggrievement.

                      However you may feel about your own skills, I am not your employee nor your child, and I will get to things I do on my time in my own way. If it takes me days to respond then it does.

                      You might want to reread this that you wrote in your comment above that I have quoted below, and consider how sounds. This is a condescending screed of grievances that I do not recognize your superiority. I did not react the way you wanted me to. Hey, I am an older adult who has managed to live quite well until now with out your tutorage.

                      I have been trying to educate you in various ways with good intention and conscience, and good advice seems to have fallen on deaf ear, not to mention my being grossly misrepresented.

                      The rule of thumb in giving advice is to do it once and let it sit. If the person wants it they will interact with you on it, ask you for more. If they do not , they are not interested in your advice.

                      Understand this subject is closed! We won’t be discussing it, nor your missing comments anymore. I am sure you will want to respond with more grievances of mistreatment and how we do not understand / appreciate how skilled and learned you are. Like others you are welcome to come here and comment if you so choose. If you do and I find it germane to the subject being discussed I will respond. If it is more on this subject it will be ignored by me. I do wish you well. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      It is highly deplorable that you still find your conduct entirely germane and defensible when you summarily jumped to conclusions and accused me of being upset and refused to believe me, and falsely claimed that you called me out and I was trying to save face by bringing up the issue of missing comments, an issue that took you three days to retrieve those comments long after I have already explained and pointed out in a series of comments what happened, comments that you at the time still refused to read ahead to get a much better grasp.

                      Conflating issues and jumping to conclusions whilst committing false analogy, false equivalence, false balance and/or correlation-causation fallacies seem to have become your forte lately. Now, if you like, you may take your time and re-read my previous comment, and try to have more empathy and holistic understanding:

                      Dear Scottie,

                      When people have the shock of discovering that (some of) their latest (and perhaps also their best and/or longest) comments have been missing or deleted, and they promptly inform you of what has happened in great detail over many comments and even provide you with the solution, and they confide in you that they cannot in good conscience continue to have any further conversation with you via commenting if you cannot guarantee that their comments will not again disappear (for whatever reason(s)) without promptly retrieving those comments, it is very unbecoming and inconsiderate of you to have the confronting audacity of jumping to conclusions and assuming that people are upset because you call them out and they are trying to save face!

                      Please kindly think and be kind for a moment. People are upset because their long and meticulously composed comments have not been successfully submitted and appeared in the comment section of your post. Please be considerate and not summarily pour ashes on their faces when they are already feeling upset and dejected, and when what they really need is your understanding and your retrieving those missing comments promptly.

                      Please stop conflating issues and jumping to conclusions! Would you have made such problematic and unkind statements had I happened to inform you about missing comments a month ago?

                      Furthermore, we both have submitted a great deal more comments lately and the chance of something unexpected happening to some of our comments will be correspondingly much higher as a result.

                      Correlation does not imply causation.

                      It is just all too easy and convenient to simply attribute or equate something to be the reason or explanation that you want or expect, especailly if or when you have the intention of painting their characters in lesser light and/or soiling their honour or integrity.

                      I have been trying to educate you in various ways with good intention and conscience, and good advice seems to have fallen on deaf ear, not to mention my being grossly misrepresented.

                      Continuing the discussion further, here are more to consider in my recent comment to Nan, towards whom you have been so trusting as your ally, as you continue to be oblivious to her many flaws, not just restricted to those mentioned below:

                      Dear Nan,

                      On the contrary, there is no apology owed to Scottie, as those comments were clearly missing from both this post in situ and in the WordPress Reader. In addition, I have saved the whole post at different stages as proofs.

                      Apart from styling and formatting aspects, the contents of a post and its comment section are THE SAME regardless of whether one views them in situ or in the Reader. Please stop inventing any further inane explanation(s) or excuse(s) for Scottie, who has finally acknowledged, after three days, that they were indeed stuck in his spam folders, and therefore during these three days, they could not have appeared at all in this post, whether in situ or in the Reader. I do not appreciate your continuing inane and problematic remarks, especially when they also come with distortions and/or fabrications. Indeed, you are the one who should have apologized.

                      Also, you can see that these previously missing comments indeed do not contain any links, contrary to what Scottie claimed earlier that they were consigned as spams because they contain three or more links.

                      Scottie did not believe me then whilst claiming that I have been petty and have exploited a face-saving tactic. It took him three days to retrieve those comments even when I have given him copious explanations and solution.

                      No reply is necessary, as you so wish. May you have a lovely week. Happy mid-March!

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      On top of what has already happened, you still see fit to couch my concerted and conscientious efforts as being rude, insulting and treating you like an eight-year-old. This is another evidence of your intention of painting people’s characters in lesser light and/or soiling their honour or integrity to prop up your own and/or to minimize or obscure the objectionable aspects of what has gone amiss in your claims and conducts.

                      Whether or not you meant it literally or figuratively, would any reasonable or sane person really write and explain in the manner that I have shown in your post to an eight-year-old?

                      If you were indeed an eight-year-old, then I would have wasted my time.

                      Given that you are not an eight-year-old, and that my ostensibly concerted and conscientious efforts expanded in this post seem to be still largely in vain, not to mention that I have been in the education sector and the academic environment, one is really left wondering the validity and reliability of many of your claims, let alone denials, delays and/or false accusations superimposed or juxtaposed with false analogy, false equivalence, false balance and/or correlation-causation fallacies.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      In addition, whether there are or have been others who encouraged you (in their own ways) is beside the point, insofar as when I encourage you, it does not automatically mean that you (or anybody else for that matter) will necessarily know that I am or have been doing so; or that my encouragement(s) will be recognized, heeded, appreciated, understood and/or taken seriously at all or unproblematically, let alone be misrepresented, misunderstood, trashed and/or regarded as backhanded compliments, or as a (veiled or overt) attempt at getting visitors to my blog(s) — rather than as the benevolent gesture and/or open invitation from someone who understands and really cares about you and your growth, not even necessarily in the manner and scope that you have always preferred, practised, contemplated, assumed and/or imagined.

                      In any case, thank you for finally acknowledging my encouraging you, albeit belatedly.

                      Your characterisation or explanation of Nan’s expression “To each his/her own.” seems to be reasonable but is in fact very problematic. And it is problematic not just because you have not understood my very dense “word salad” (to use your own words) and have tried to couch it as my deeming the issue regarding Nan’s statement to be just a defense mechanism on Nan’s part. It is problematic also because there is much more to consider as follows, and this is merely one of the reasons as to why I have encouraged you to really go against your grain from time to time, and not necessarily always in the manner and scope in which you involved yourself in this regard. Otherwise, you will continue to drive the same intellectual and cognitive car and therefore will tend to jump to certain problematic conclusions, connections and/or associations in the manner, pattern and scope as you did, not just here but also in some of the comments that you submitted to my main blog.

                      The liberty, or rather, the flippancy by which a great number of regular folks are willing to defend or promote their positions, views or perspectives — when they knowingly circumvent much needed examination of, or justifiable objection to, their holding those positions, views or perspectives — by deploying such quotations or similar statements as “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “My choice. Not yours.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, “There is no right or wrong.”, “Everyone is different.”, “Everyone is equal.” and “Everybody or anybody is entitled to their choices, opinions and views.”, is a very clear indication that those folks are in flagrant disregard or ignorance of the everyday reality that people’s choices, opinions, views and decisions are by no means (guaranteed to be) equal, equitable, acceptable, reasonable, justifiable, defensible, cogent, unproblematic, unselfish and so on, even when universal criteria or wholesale yardsticks can be established and agreed upon. After all, those who are decent and reasonable would have great difficulty in condoning or rationalizing the choices, opinions and views of sociopaths, psychopaths, tormentors, murderers, dictators, swindlers, rapists, bullies, simpletons, bigots, misogynists, racists, hatemongers, and other characters of disrepute. Choices, opinions, views, decisions and even moral concepts and values are only ever going to be cogent and meaningful when applied in relation to something, and when contexts are taken into account, since if all choices, opinions, views, decisions and values were indiscriminately allowed or arbitrarily deemed equal then there would be utter chaos. Of course, people are always going to have different opinions and views, which invariably inform, influence, shape or dictate their lives, decisions and actions. Illustrating this unavoidable fact of life very well is the Chinese idiom or proverb “議論紛紛,莫衷一是,然又引經據典,公有公理,婆有婆理。”, which means that there are plenty of arguments and no one is in agreement even after quoting scriptures and citing classics, much like a man or husband versus a woman or wife, each having their own reason, truth or logic. It goes without saying that a cat will think and do as a cat does, whereas a dog will likewise think and do as a dog does. It can be concluded that people who utter the abovementioned relativistic quotations or statements are essentially presenting hardly any (useful or helpful) information, considering that such blanket quotations or sweeping statements connote and signify very little about anything, being intrinsically devoid of insight and explanatory power, to the extent that their contents are as limited, deficient, commonplace, quotidian, vacuous or superfluous as those of an utterly well-known and invariant fact as “The sun rises from the east.” Not only do such quotations or statements contain little or no information, they also erroneously impart a false sense, or an arbitrary notion, of relativity, entitlement, democracy, arbitration, equality or fairness without qualification, discernment and distinction.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                    • Just an FYI … if you use the WP Reader (https://www.wpreader.com/), you will be able to see ALL the comments you have made on Scottie’s blog … and the one that begins “In addition, whether there are or have been others who encouraged you …” (the one you accuse him of deleting) is shown THREE times in the Reader. I think you owe Scottie an apology.

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                    • Dear Nan,

                      On the contrary, there is no apology owed to Scottie, as those comments were clearly missing from both this post in situ and in the WordPress Reader. In addition, I have saved the whole post at different stages as proofs.

                      Apart from styling and formatting aspects, the contents of a post and its comment section are THE SAME regardless of whether one views them in situ or in the Reader. Please stop inventing any further inane explanation(s) or excuse(s) for Scottie, who has finally acknowledged, after three days, that they were indeed stuck in his spam folders, and therefore during these three days, they could not have appeared at all in this post, whether in situ or in the Reader. I do not appreciate your continuing inane and problematic remarks, especially when they also come with distortions and/or fabrications. Indeed, you are the one who should have apologized.

                      Also, you can see that these previously missing comments indeed do not contain any links, contrary to what Scottie claimed earlier that they were consigned as spams because they contain three or more links.

                      Scottie did not believe me then whilst claiming that I have been petty and have exploited a face-saving tactic. It took him three days to retrieve those comments even when I have given him copious explanations and solution.

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                    • Tsk-Tsk … After Three Days!! How sad. Too bad.

                      IF you have read any of Scottie’s recent posts, he has mentioned on several occasions that he has not been feeling well. He has also profusely apologized for not being able to keep up with the comments. But YOU are so self-absorbed with your “copious explanations and solutions” that you have not even noticed.

                      I applaud him for his comment to you on this date at 16:25.

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                    • Dear Nan,

                      Please kindly acknowledge what I have pointed out to you in my previous comment directed at you.

                      As analysed in some of my comments, the said comment of Scottie for which you applaud has a great deal of problematic issues.

                      I have been aware of Scottie’s condition. Please be informed that the whole situation is far from just a matter of Scottie not being able to keep up with the comments. Furthermore, whether or not Scottie has been in health or sickness is largely irrelevant to the nature and scope of those problematic issues, and thus cannot excuse or absolve him of what has happened.

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I am re-summiting this comment as it is missing or deleted. Please kindly preserve my comments.

                      In addition, whether there are or have been others who encouraged you (in their own ways) is beside the point, insofar as when I encourage you, it does not automatically mean that you (or anybody else for that matter) will necessarily know that I am or have been doing so; or that my encouragement(s) will be recognized, heeded, appreciated, understood and/or taken seriously at all or unproblematically, let alone be misrepresented, misunderstood, trashed and/or regarded as backhanded compliments, or as a (veiled or overt) attempt at getting visitors to my blog(s) — rather than as the benevolent gesture and/or open invitation from someone who understands and really cares about you and your growth, not even necessarily in the manner and scope that you have always preferred, practised, contemplated, assumed and/or imagined.

                      In any case, thank you for finally acknowledging my encouraging you, albeit belatedly.

                      Your characterisation or explanation of Nan’s expression “To each his/her own.” seems to be reasonable but is in fact very problematic. And it is problematic not just because you have not understood my very dense “word salad” (to use your own words) and have tried to couch it as my deeming the issue regarding Nan’s statement to be just a defense mechanism on Nan’s part. It is problematic also because there is much more to consider as follows, and this is merely one of the reasons as to why I have encouraged you to really go against your grain from time to time, and not necessarily always in the manner and scope in which you involved yourself in this regard. Otherwise, you will continue to drive the same intellectual and cognitive car and therefore will tend to jump to certain problematic conclusions, connections and/or associations in the manner, pattern and scope as you did, not just here but also in some of the comments that you submitted to my main blog.

                      The liberty, or rather, the flippancy by which a great number of regular folks are willing to defend or promote their positions, views or perspectives — when they knowingly circumvent much needed examination of, or justifiable objection to, their holding those positions, views or perspectives — by deploying such quotations or similar statements as “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “My choice. Not yours.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, “There is no right or wrong.”, “Everyone is different.”, “Everyone is equal.” and “Everybody or anybody is entitled to their choices, opinions and views.”, is a very clear indication that those folks are in flagrant disregard or ignorance of the everyday reality that people’s choices, opinions, views and decisions are by no means (guaranteed to be) equal, equitable, acceptable, reasonable, justifiable, defensible, cogent, unproblematic, unselfish and so on, even when universal criteria or wholesale yardsticks can be established and agreed upon. After all, those who are decent and reasonable would have great difficulty in condoning or rationalizing the choices, opinions and views of sociopaths, psychopaths, tormentors, murderers, dictators, swindlers, rapists, bullies, simpletons, bigots, misogynists, racists, hatemongers, and other characters of disrepute. Choices, opinions, views, decisions and even moral concepts and values are only ever going to be cogent and meaningful when applied in relation to something, and when contexts are taken into account, since if all choices, opinions, views, decisions and values were indiscriminately allowed or arbitrarily deemed equal then there would be utter chaos. Of course, people are always going to have different opinions and views, which invariably inform, influence, shape or dictate their lives, decisions and actions. Illustrating this unavoidable fact of life very well is the Chinese idiom or proverb “議論紛紛,莫衷一是,然又引經據典,公有公理,婆有婆理。”, which means that there are plenty of arguments and no one is in agreement even after quoting scriptures and citing classics, much like a man or husband versus a woman or wife, each having their own reason, truth or logic. It goes without saying that a cat will think and do as a cat does, whereas a dog will likewise think and do as a dog does. It can be concluded that people who utter the abovementioned relativistic quotations or statements are essentially presenting hardly any (useful or helpful) information, considering that such blanket quotations or sweeping statements connote and signify very little about anything, being intrinsically devoid of insight and explanatory power, to the extent that their contents are as limited, deficient, commonplace, quotidian, vacuous or superfluous as those of an utterly well-known and invariant fact as “The sun rises from the east.” Not only do such quotations or statements contain little or no information, they also erroneously impart a false sense, or an arbitrary notion, of relativity, entitlement, democracy, arbitration, equality or fairness without qualification, discernment and distinction.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                • Hello SoundEagle. I simply do not have the time or interest to delve that deep in to some subjects. I do have interests I delve deeply into and continue to explore as new information comes out. The subjects that you would like to point me to I am interested in either as an overview or barely at all. You love music and are good at it, your writings and postings show this. I care little about music and rarely listen to it, and what I do is rather simple such as parody songs I post occasionally. I do enjoy Zefrank1’s videos, they are short and very entertaining. I also watch Animalogic https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwg6_F2hDHYrqbNSGjmar4w that has around 10 minute videos, Deep Look https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-3SbfTPJsL8fJAPKiVqBLg which has between 3 to 5 minute videos, PBS Eons https://www.youtube.com/c/eons/videos again about average of 10 minute videos, And another one I frequent when I have time is Ben G Thomas https://www.youtube.com/c/BenGThomas/videos a couple of British teens who do on average short videos of evolution of animals and stuff. The key to all of this is about time and depth. Other than a few documentaries I normally post short stuff. But you understand this you mentioned it in your comment.

                  SoundEagle I did go to your post. It was not interesting to me, it was way to long for the time and energy I had then. I have far more to do right now than I can get to in a day. If you notice I some times am three days behind just on comments. I am not interested in a doctoral dissertations on most subjects, and I do not have the time for them. I am sure your posts are very good for the audience you are aiming for and I thank you for wanting me to be in that group, but I am not. We all have both our interests and our limitations.

                  We all have our target audiences for our writings or other postings. Not everyone can be in every group. That is just the way things are and must be accepted. We can not appeal to all people all the time. Hugs

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                  • Dear Scottie,

                    Firstly, please be informed that my blog is far from just about music. Thank you for your concerted effort in replying to me here. I would like you to know that I have all along understood where you come from and your approach, and I believe that you know this very well already. For example, even just in this post, you can see that I did gel with you and communicated about the value and worth of the YouTube video that you have embedded.

                    It is alright that you find some of my posts interesting and others not at all, for whatever reason(s). Though I would like you to at least consider the implications of the fact that there are indeed those who have even less time and/or less interest in biology or animal behaviours (and other similar or related topics) than you do, who have reassessed their initial assumptions and levels of interest or engagement, after they purposely made the extra efforts to peruse parts of my certain posts regardless of their own backgrounds, interests motives and assumptions.

                    Let me give you an analogy: For the GOP members to change or to really get out of their rut or what they perceive to be their missions to be, then they need to really challenge themselves and start doing things differently bit by bit. In other words, all I have been suggesting to you in this regard is to permit yourself to really go against your own grain from time to time. And if you were to do so, you would learn something truly new or learn in different ways, and have new knowledge about things and about yourself, and you would or could be very surprised at what you would find or how you had arrived at certain juncture(s). If some of my posts or pages could be such vehicles for you, then perhaps that would translate to more opportunities for us to interact with each other; and perhaps that is a sign of good karma, so to speak.

                    Now, you don’t have to take my word for it, because you can see and read those numerous comments that others have submitted to my main blog.

                    Yours sincerely,
                    ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I have rarely been to your blog and then only when you have requested it of me. So I really only remember the contents of about four comments I submitted. If there are numerous ones I neither remember their subjects or putting them there. I do remember having a discussion with you that I would have preferred to respond to you in private and you wanted the comment on your post. So I did it.

                      I can see you really do not hesitate to speak your mind do you? I do challenge my self, and I also engage in the learning / research I enjoy in the ways I enjoy doing it. I do not need to be drowned in a subject to advance in knowledge of it. For example I have recently been learning of the history of policing and some of the institutionalized racism in the US. Cagjr mentioned a paper and I asked for the link. The first page was only a page long. I read that, and had time so I read part 2 of the few more parts listed at the end of the page. The second part was only half a page long. But both things I read were very informative. They gave me the information I wanted. I was able to fit it in the time I had, nor did I get overwhelmed. I am trying to say less was more than enough.

                      SoundEagle, you are smart and talented. No one doubts that. But you have to accept that some people do not enjoy your style of posting or writing. From your blog I can say that you are doing well and many do enjoy your style and I congratulate you on that. However I am not one of those people. I have tried very hard to be nice about this. I do not like to hurt peoples feelings. But I must be clear with you that your blog is not for me. I enjoy your thoughts on things I post, I enjoy replying to you. I was trying every time I wrote those emails and in comments on your blog to gently get you to see this, and to not hurt your feelings.

                      There is nothing wrong with your advanced education style and highly graphic posts, but there are not for me. I thank you for your engagement and your suggestions, but your posts are not for me. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      Thank you for iterating here what you and I have all along already known very well.

                      However, if you truly appreciate what you have expressed about me, what I do and my various talents and insights or the likes, then please have (far) more trust in my judgements, knowledge and wisdom, not the least in my ability and accuracy in ascertaining a situation and/or someone’s approach and character, including those of Nan. If, for whatever reason(s), you have come to the conclusion that I have been (too) critical of someone (including you or anyone else for that matter), please believe me that I have often been even more critical of myself, and have held and judged myself at (much) higher standards, whether I like it or not.

                      Please kindly understand that it can be very hurtful to claim that I have insulted someone when I have not done so. It is already quite enough to endure what ostentatiously amounts to summarily dismissing me and accusing me of being insulting, snobbish, passing judgement and so on. There is clearly a repeat of certain behavioural patterns not just here but also elsewhere. I for one would like to caution that one should clearly examine their thinking, behaviours and assumptions before lashing out and jumping to such conclusions, not to mention my being treated with the F word.

                      In any case, I would like to thank you for your considered response.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                    • I for one would like to caution that one should clearly examine their thinking, behaviours and assumptions before lashing out

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                    • Nan, according to your own statements, you should not be replying or interacting with me, as you have previously mentioned that you had composed your very last comment to me and have no wish to interact with an intellectual snob like me.

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                    • Indeed! You have again fallen into the trap that I mentioned earlier as follows:

                      … such an assertion, often in the form of “I’m entitled to my opinion.”, “Let’s agree to disagree.”, “My choice. Not yours.”, “That’s your choice.”, “Each to their own.”, or “It’s all subjective.”, may function or masquerade as a defense mechanism to reaffirm a confirmation bias, or as a refusal to participate in logical discussions, reasoned arguments, efficacious adjudications, holistic assessments or constructive criticisms, especially when the assertion is expressed as, or accompanied by, some stereotype, platitude, truism, truthiness, bromide, red herring or thought-terminating cliché to sidetrack other spectra of opinion, to divert attention away from other lines of thought, or to mislead or distract (a project or debate) from a relevant, central or important issue.

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I can understand being hurt when you are misunderstood. I can also understand being misunderstood. The written language humans use is even more easy to misunderstand than the spoken word.

                      It is not that you have been too critical but more that you seem not to be hearing how you are coming across or what others are trying to say. For myself I find that is often either cultural or based on language barriers. I want to make clear I have not dismissed you in any manner and in fact have gone to great lengths to discuss this situation with you. If I did not care about you or your feelings I wouldn’t be doing so.

                      Lets use myself here as an example of the misunderstanding happening. I have mentioned to you I feel you have been giving me backhanded complements. A back handed complement is described as.

                      A compliment that implies it is not really a compliment at all She paid me a backhanded compliment when she said my work was “surprisingly good.”

                      While I am sure you did not mean to you seemed to imply a belittling of me and my abilities. That is why Nan responded to you defending me. You have come off as arrogant and pompous. This is not an attack on you from me, I am only saying how reading what you wrote came across to those of us reading it. While I do not know you personally we have corresponded for several years here and on other peoples blogs, I do not think that was your intent or goal, which is why I have gone to these lengths to respond.

                      You implied the same of Nan’s ability to understand your writings and replies and that is why she responded more forcefully to you. Nan is an accomplish published author and a smart reasonable person and you gave the impression you felt that she should not only not weigh in on the subject and was unable to understand what was being talked about. You seemed and came across as condescending.

                      I have said several times I am not attacking you nor am I trying to assign motives to your interactions, I am simply stating how it is coming across to us. At this point I feel we have beat this dead horse to death again and again. I have addressed my feelings, Nan has addressed hers, and unless you want to address any wrongs you feel have been put on you, I think we can all let this go. We are adults with different backgrounds and skill. I do not speak for anyone but my self. I enjoy the comments on my blog and that is why I try to respond to each one. ( Side note, in an example of being misunderstood I once wrote a long well sourced reply in a discussion with Dylan we were having, and I reversed two words through the entire reply. It changed the meaning of everything I was trying to say and I did not catch it until in his reply I felt he was responding to something entirely different than I said. It can happen to all of us. ) I should mention how I respond to comments so if you have made a comment / observation I have not gotten to or may have already addressed it wont seem weird. The system I use is the WordPress bell symbol at the top of any WordPress blog I am on. I click on it and it displays comments and likes, the ones I have not clicked on are blue and the ones I have clicked on are white. This list is timed with the newest on top. I scroll to the bottom of these notifications and click on the next one up from the last I addressed. If I miss answering the comments too long they disappear from the list and I lose them. I feel this system is inefficient but I have not found a better method yet. What I would love for my comment section to become is a discussion area with people communication their thoughts with or with out me to each other. I see this on other blogs, and I love the interaction between the people. I love that you and Nan have had conversations here on my Toy Box. I love that Shira and Cagjr are often replying to each other and I get to simply read along.

                      Well I am going to get off my soap box, I feel like I have been sermonizing and that is not my intent. Best wishes. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      Thank you for your extensive reply.

                      Our feeling of being misunderstood and your assertion about condescension and backhanded compliments are not just rooted in culture and language (written or verbal) but also behavioural and educational dimensions. I have already written and analysed them extensively, and I would like to request that you read all of my comments in this post rather than reading and replying one by one, which has repeatedly causing you to have inadequate understanding of the larger totality, and as a result, affecting the validity and cogency of your replies.

                      In other words, how we are coming across to others as well as our interpretations of and responses to what others are trying to say to us can be and are often due to patterns, flaws and pitfalls in our thinking and reasoning, and I have highlighted some of those patterns, flaws and pitfalls to you, many of which still appear to you as no more than just “word salad”, to use your own words. Be mindful of your own mental traits and thinking styles, whose flaws can or will often lead you astray in assessing a situation or someone’s else character, especially when you lack deep understanding of social and behavioural sciences. As I have stated in an earlier comment:

                      Such differences regarding whether certain (mis)communications that are deemed to be condescending or otherwise cannot be always justifiably couched or explained away as differences in culture (or even in personality). That you have yet to fully realise the problematic nature of some of the issues I have highlighted here and elsewhere is and can be a good indication of your considerate, well-meaning approach, but it is not an approach that will bring much deeper understanding of sociological, behavioural and interpersonal matters regarding human behaviour, beyond that which what your esteemed friendship and humanity have shown me, even if/when we could discount or disregard what you (and other(s)) have more or less characterized or deemed as condescending.

                      You (and others) can and will go a very long way if or when you have fully understood and appreciated the profundity and implications of the previous paragraph.

                      Since you have not bothered to read and properly digest all of my comments, you have continued to err in the real sense that you have yet to thoroughly reassess and to be doubly cautious about Nan’s reasonings, and by extension, others’ reasonings, as well as your own understanding of Nan’s reasonings plus your very own. When what I have written or expressed is still poorly understood and hardly addressed properly, any further responses from you (and Nan) regarding these matters will almost certainly be similarly problematic, regardless of how much you continue to reply to my comments, and whether we are indeed flogging a dead horse or not.

                      You and Nan (and for that matter, many others) could have had much more different responses and holistic understanding towards the likes of SoundEagle (or indeed many other folks and matters), had you shown considerable interest in my highly concerted and analytical efforts in peeling away and exposing the critical issues and flaws in human nature as elaborated in many of my posts and pages, whose contents do matter enormously in how we live, choose, think and write but also how we quote, reason and decide. Unfortunately, many folks have rarely been properly exposed and educated in such important aspects of human life, and hence they continually err in various ways and largely oblivious to the true causes of their conducts and actions, the ramifications of which are often far-reaching not just to those individuals but also to the society and environment.

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              • I totally agree, Scottie! Not everyone has the time or interest to read reams of information about a topic UNLESS it’s a subject that’s near and dear to them … or they have academic inclinations. That’s one thing I like about your blogs. You rarely “overdo.” You share basic information and then provide links for those who want to “read more.”

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                • Dear Nan,

                  I agree with you only up to a point. Besides, I seriously doubt that you have a decent (level of) appreciation of what those “huge qualitative and quantitative differences” that I mentioned in one of my previous comments really are. Otherwise, you would not have commented and responded to me in the manner as you did. And I have neither the time nor the energy to elaborate on those differences here, as to do so properly will constitute writing a very long essay.

                  Furthermore, my motive and conscience are very clear insofar as I have always seen the potential in Scottie, and I have from time to time acknowledged and encouraged him in various ways, even if or when he may initially be somewhat hesitant or unwilling. Yet, I have seen his growths, and some of the proofs or evidence can be gauged in his comments that he submitted to my main blog.

                  Happy March to you!

                  Yours sincerely,
                  ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                  • You know what, SoundEagle? I don’t really give a flying F___ whether you agree with me or not. Moreover, the “veiled” insult you included in your comment most definitely indicates your level of emotional intelligence.

                    Scottie has an excellent blog … and he offers/provides some extremely very well thought out remarks and opinions in his responses to others. Not everyone may agree — but this is what often makes online discussions interesting. For you to pass judgement on whether he peruses “substantive scientific/academic writings” is an extremely snobbish remark and totally uncalled for.

                    This is my last comment to you as I have far better things to do than carry on a discussion with an “intellectual snob.”

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                    • Dear Nan,

                      If you really don’t care about what I write or do, why do you even bother to reply here?

                      Please be advised that I have never spoken ill of Scottie or his blog, which I have been a regular reader and contributor.

                      It is clear that your current response is a heated one and quite discourteous, even summarily dismissing me and accusing me of being insulting, snobbish and passing judgement. One should clearly examine their thinking, behaviours and assumptions before lashing out and jumping to such conclusions, not to mention using the F word.

                      Going back slightly more than one year ago on 2nd February 2020, it was already very clear and prominent there and then that the highly engaging and productive correspondences between Scottie and me via the comment section of that particular post on his blog and also privately via a series of emails have also been misunderstood by you.

                      Regardless of your problematic claims and behaviours as exhibited in your comments, I wish you all the best.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. I need to ask if you are on the spectrum? Are you autistic or Asperger’s? This is not an insult to ask you this but it would explain some things.

                      You have misunderstood communications from me, from Nan, and given me several backhanded complements I have ignored, and clearly insulted Nan’s ability to understand what you wrote all in this comment thread.

                      The emails between you and I were not misunderstood by Nan, as she was not a party of them.

                      I see another comment in this thread I want to read before I continue to reply. I am not angry nor singling you out, but I have noticed a lack of understanding of what has been meant by what was written and what was implied in return. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I have no such mental afflictions. Of course, Nan was not a party to those emails. I did mention to Nan in one of those comments in your said post that you and I had corresponded via email.

                      Nan claimed that it was an insult, even though I have later mentioned to the contrary.

                      On the contrary, I beg to differ, for I have shown a great deal of care, well-considered judgement, explanation and understanding in my comments both here and on my own blogs.

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. That is why I was asking because the miscommunications between you two were classic. Maybe it is cultural. Nan seen the same thing I did. Your response to her was condescending, as was some of what you said of me. It implied an arrogance on your part I do not think you meant. I don’t think you meant to elevate your self that way, but it came across that way.

                      Anyway we have thrashed this subject to death tonight and I must get to a few more headlines before bed. My eyes are dropping badly now as it is. I will talk more with you in the morning. The rest of the comments and replies I will get to then when I am more refreshed. Be well. Hugs

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                    • Hello Nan. Yesterday I did great. But today I am struggling. It seems to be getting better, it is like a few days good and then one or two bad. I reached for a towel today and just contacting the towel broke a finger nail back deep into my finger. They do not know why it is happening that my nails are going very thin and fragile. Today I got up tired but OK. Went out with Ron. Then we got home and all day I was barely able to function. I couldn’t even watch a movie or videos. Then after four cups of coffee I perked up about 4 PM. Now at 7:30 I am barely able to keep awake again. And my stomach is roiling again. So I am thinking of taking my evening pills and after doing a few quick comments or other stuff then going to bed. It is discouraging Nan. And to top it off I had one of my bad nightmares last night so was up part of the night anyway all upset. Ron had to try to wake me because I was crying and trying to scream in my sleep. While I have nightmares or dreams of my childhood many times a week, last night was a really bad one that left me shaking. But good news, Odie is learning to come up and snuggle me now that Milo has passed on. I know how you feel about the cat on my pillow and you are correct, we are trying to teach him to only come up to my chest.
                      Best wishes. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      I would have to be very brief, and needless to say, there could be further misunderstanding of my next paragraph as follows:

                      Such differences regarding whether certain (mis)communications that are deemed to be condescending or otherwise cannot be always justifiably couched or explained away as differences in culture (or even in personality). That you have yet to fully realise the problematic nature of some of the issues I have highlighted here and elsewhere is and can be a good indication of your considerate, well-meaning approach, but it is not an approach that will bring much deeper understanding of sociological, behavioural and interpersonal matters regarding human behaviour, beyond that which what your esteemed friendship and humanity have shown me, even if/when we could discount or disregard what you (and other(s)) have more or less characterized or deemed as condescending.

                      You (and others) can and will go a very long way if or when you have fully understood and appreciated the profundity and implications of the previous paragraph.

                      In any case, thank you for at least acknowledging that the identified condescendence could indeed be unintentional and the result of miscommunications and/or cultural differences.

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. Your reply here gives me the impression you feel that we / I are lacking in our understandings. I am sorry you got that impression, it was not my intent. I do see things differently than you have described or laid out. Let me explain what I feel is something we both can learn from below.

                      I served two tours in the US military. As I gained rank quickly I was a supervisor almost right out of my schooling. One of the things we were taught was that if we had a person under our command that did not understand their instructions, that was confused about what to do, or messed up it even when trying it was on us as the ones in charge. I could assign duties but never responsibility. It was up to me to communicate clearly and in what ever manner it took to make my self clear to my troops. I had the rank and the extra knowledge so it was up to me to make sure I was clear on what needed to be done and how.

                      I regret that you feel I and the others you interact with here have not grasped the problems / issues you are trying to raise. You shouldn’t feel that is not from a lack of trying, however as you know we must all view the world through the lens of our own experiences. I have read each of your replies and pondered them as if we were having a discussion in person. As I said, I find writing to be even easier to misunderstand than spoken words. I appreciate your understanding that I am well meaning towards everyone. I have mentioned and will do so again that your interactions on my posts have been something I have for the most part found an asset, and look forward to seeing more of them as you have time and interest.

                      I will let you go for tonight, I am tired and I really want to get to the rest of the comments so I can start fresh tomorrow. Be well and best wishes. Hugs

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                    • Thank you, Scottie, for your heartfelt response. Even though your military experience in certain ways has stood you in good stead, its external validities and generalizability have their limits. In addition, I would like you to be mindful that my statements, views and visions also pertain to far deeper and larger dimensions of human life and existence, significantly exceeding the purview of your previous comment to which I am replying now.

                      In any case, I am grateful to you for briefly mentioning your times and contributions in the US military.

                      Thank you for acknowledging that my considerable contributions have been an “asset” on your blog. Even more important is that you have conscientiously learnt something significant and transcendental from my writings so that you will find the reason or impetus to truly expand your mental horizon in some in-depth and sustained fashion by learning to navigate and express yourself in new and unprecedented ways at the main blog of SoundEagle🦅.

                      Have a goodnight!

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. Thank you for reminding me of that full exchange, as it proves several points I have been trying to make.

                      As to people telling me they have made a new post, even leaving a link to their new post in the comments of a post, I have allowed it and even suggested it because I am not able to get to everyone’s posts nor read my emails most of the time. I have not felt well enough to be on the computers full time nor to think properly sometimes. Take today, I have not felt well all day and I am tired. I find it hard to concentrate, I couldn’t even watch videos with full attention. I am just now getting to comments. One thing I will always do if able is the blog and comments. So people who understand that and post things they figure I might like will leave a short note letting me know. Or let me know they sent an email. Again I do not mind that as I do not feel pressured to go to anyone’s post if they leave a notification.

                      However most people get really annoyed if someone asks them to go to their blogs in a comment section, it is considered bad etiquette to ask people to go to your blog in a comment. It is seen as fishing for hits. I think that was what Nan was trying to explain in the comment thread you linked. I get a lot of comments that no one sees that say “great post, come to my blog and see mine”, I delete these as they are only mining for hits not trying to engage. Maybe you get them as well.

                      If you read that entire thread you will see how I struggled to be nice but honest and get you to see I did not want to comment on your blog / post. I did not want to hurt your feelings especially not publicly. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      Thank you for your reply. Please kindly re-read what I actually tried to inform Nan to correct her biases, preconceptions and assumptions, and by extension, yours, as follows:

                      SoundEagle 🦅ೋღஜஇ says:
                      February 2, 2020 at 17:13

                      Thank you, Nan. Perhaps my clarifying further might help here.

                      Basically, I have informed and invited Scottie (or certain person(s) depending on some situation(s) or context(s) as they arise) to visit certain posts or pages (and these can include others’ posts or articles from other websites, not necessarily mine) not because I want to fill or reach a certain quota of visitors, but because I would like to interact with Scottie (or for that matter someone else) who has an interesting take on certain things, and/or who possess certain perspectives.

                      As stated clearly, and as can be seen in my comments not just on your blog but also on my own blogs and other people’s blogs, I have been doing as described above, NOT just including link(s) to my own post(s) or page(s), for various purposes and contexts.

                      You have reiterated that you have struggled to be nice, yet it is often impervious to you that you have not fully or sufficiently understood and even misinterpreted (or interpreted from a certain problematic restricted or restrictive angle) quite many issues and matters that I have been trying to convey to you.

                      In any case, our mutual respect and friendship have remained.

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                    • For exaqmple, here’s just one of the many comments in the said post:

                      SoundEagle 🦅ೋღஜஇ says:
                      February 2, 2020 at 16:48

                      Thank you, Nan. Please kindly be informed that my previous comment is not to be summarily dismissed as a prod or the like. Furthermore, Scottie and I have had some email exchanges, the contexts and contents of which are not known to you and others.

                      Happy February to you, Nan!

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                    • Hello SoundEagle. Yes I know you said that, but anyone reading the thread would think it a prod. Only those that understand my position on them would see it differently. But again it is why I asked if you were Asperger’s or autistic because you missed the hints given in the thread. You totally missed what I was trying to say to you and in truth I felt some obligation to go to your blog simply because you kept insisting. Nan was trying to point this out to you. But you simply either felt you knew better or you ignored what was being replied to you.

                      I think we have addressed this enough, it is beating a dead horse at this point. I see you addressed another comment in that same thread. I will finish addressing the situation in that one I think. Hugs

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                    • Dear Scottie,

                      By now, from all of my analyses so far, one would hope that you would be doubly cautious about Nan’s reasonings, and by extension, others’ reasonings, as well as your own understanding of Nan’s reasonings plus your very own. When what I have written or expressed is still poorly understood and hardly addressed properly, any further responses from you (and Nan) regarding these matters will almost certainly be similarly problematic, regardless of whether you think or thought that I know or knew better, or that I was being insistent or ignoring what was being replied.

                      Yours sincerely,
                      ჱܓSoundEagle🦅

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                    • Here’s another from the post:

                      SoundEagle 🦅ೋღஜஇ says:
                      February 2, 2020 at 17:13

                      Thank you, Nan. Perhaps my clarifying further might help here.

                      Basically, I have informed and invited Scottie (or certain person(s) depending on some situation(s) or context(s) as they arise) to visit certain posts or pages (and these can include others’ posts or articles from other websites, not necessarily mine) not because I want to fill or reach a certain quota of visitors, but because I would like to interact with Scottie (or for that matter someone else) who has an interesting take on certain things, and/or who possess certain perspectives.

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      • Hello Nan. This has been a long few days. Starting Wednesday I was sick to my stomach and tired. That continued on and off all the way to today. Ron also is having nausea, stomach queasiness, and fatigue. We have both been napping most of the time. I got up yesterday afternoon and made a tomato sauce and after we ate went to bed. Ron and I both got up in the early morning and then spent most of the day in bed sleeping. Not sure if we caught another bug or what. At first Ron thought I had over done, then it hit him also, but not as bad as I had it. Then he thought it was our blood sugar or medications. I think it is a real pain in the butt. I am OK now most of the time, with only occasional bouts of queasiness and of course being really tired. Time to start coffee drinking. I felt so good Tuesday. Hugs

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        • I really think it would be a good idea for you to get tested for COVID. Sure, it could be your medications or blood sugar, but it could also be the virus. I know you said Ron was to get vaccinated this week but that doesn’t necessarily mean you –or he– are home free.

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          • Hello Nan. Ron and I have been brain storming and we think we know what might be going on with me. It explains why it is cycling and I catch everything so much worse.

            I have very bad allergies. I was taking shots for them and had eye allergy medications, inhalers, and medications. When Ron lost his job last May we lost both our insurances and his income. So I stopped taking my shots and seeing the allergist because all the costs wouldn’t be paid for. Because I was not being seen all my allergy medications stopped being refilled. I stopped getting my shots.

            We found out about my allergies because way back in 1998 I got sicker and sicker. It was like I had a cold or flu that just never stopped. Lucky I had a good doctor and when the symptoms persisted had me tested.

            I started being treated and felt so much better. Then they thought I was OK to stop being treated and a few years later I had a repeat of the above. I got sicker and sicker.

            I started treatments again only over here on the West coast. Well I got to the point they said I was OK to stop being treated. Well a few years ago I started to feel sick all the time and so I went to get tested and it turns out I can not maintain the desensitization or what ever it is that makes your immune system OK to allergies. So I was in long term treatment when Ron lost his job.

            It all makes sense. Ron has been telling me how I am having reactions all the time and I am taking Benadryl and over the counter medications. Thinking about it this summer when I had the flu for so long I was thinking Covid, not my allergies, but it makes sense. The reason my labs have been out of whack is because of the constant allergic reactions acting like infections. It also explains my being so tired. My primary did not catch it but then I did not think of it until now. Well I think I did once right at the beginning but Ron had not gotten unemployment so money was tight and I couldn’t afford the treatment.

            It also explains the stomach problems. The nausea. One of the things my allergies do is cascade. And when they do they make me sick to my stomach. The allergist had me on a medication for that but again I don’t have it now.

            Ron and I talked about it, he said he has been thinking it might be that. So next week I have to call my allergist and see how much out of pocket costs and see if we can afford the treatments. I feel rather stupid not to have thought of this, but then I have not been feeling well in a long time. I think this must be it. Well let’s hope I can afford the treatment. Hugs

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            • From your explanation, it does make sense. Too bad you didn’t put two and two together before now — maybe you wouldn’t have had to suffer for so long. Fingers crossed that you’ll be able to manage the cost(s).

              (I won’t mention the cat and allergies. 🤫)

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              • Hello Nan. I agree. Remember my immunity slowly weaned off so it was not so apparent. It was not sudden. And while Ron has allergies his are not anyway nearly as bad as mine. Mine can be life threatening as you mentioned, such as when Milo use to lay against my face and it would interfere with my breathing. Trust me Ron doesn’t let Odie do that nor get so close to my face. I would allow it but Ron has made it clear to both of us it is not to be, Odie can be on the secondary pillow only.

                So I slowly started to feel worse and then when I got the “flu / cold” this last late summer early fall, it was at a time Ron also did not feel well and we both thought it was a flu / cold thing. But I did not have a fever ( which is a way to tell and I should have thought of that ) but he did. That is why he was tested instead of me, I never had the fever. During that time every things was Covid and to tell the truth we put other things out of our mind, every thing was measured against possible Covid.

                Ron is really kicking him self over this. He was the one who brought it up and when we started talking about it he reminded me it has happened before, I got really sick, and then started treatment only to stop and get really ill again over time. It was the Covid that got in the way of us seeing this.

                So late night Ron had me take some of the free samples I have of my allergy medications. I got the best sleep I have had in a long time, I could breathe so much better. He wants me to call my allergist and get back to my treatments as soon as possible this week. The problem is costs. Yes money.

                We are doing OK on my income and Ron’s unemployment, we took a big income hit but we adjusted. The allergy treatments I need are not fully covered by Medicare. I do not know if my new medication plan part D covers the allergy medications or treatments, so it depends on costs. One thing we can do is at least take the over the counter allergy medications.

                Just to let you understand how sensitive my skin is, if I try to use a face cream it burns my face. Ron bought me a jar of that ponds stuff and I put some on, and I suffered so bad. My face went bright red, and burned, I rinsed and rinsed but couldn’t get it off. Took three days before my face stopped hurting. I can use hand creams on my hands, but not on my face or other parts of my body. As for the body wash we use it is Dove sensitive skin and I have to use the smallest amount on my face and rinse it off right way. Or I look like I was sunburned and my face skin hurts.

                Not sure if this is the right track but it is part of it at least. I feel so much better today even if I am getting really tired again. That we may have a handle on it makes me feel a lot better. Hugs

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                • Have you tried aloe vera?

                  So glad better days are just around the bend! One (more) good thing about Biden is he’s aware of health costs and will work to bring them down.

                  Re: the allergies. Didn’t you say at one point that you had been tested to find out exactly what was triggering them?

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                  • Hello Nan. I have been tested at least three times. Each time they find more things that set my body off and reset which are the priority or lower levels. For example when I first started cats were high on my allergens list, but this last time they were only like level 2 out of 4 levels. I am not sure what to do next, I hate to cost us more money when we are just making it, but I am so tired of being tired and ill. Ron is kicking himself for not thinking of it sooner, and wanting me to call my allergist first thing Monday morning. I am going to bed in a few minutes. Hugs

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    • Hello Nan. Yes I got it thank you. Ron gave me a lecture tonight about how far behind on email I am. The good news is he got called by the county, he has an appointment for his first vaccine shot on Thursday. I am so happy for him. He does all our out of the house stuff he can alone but he is sure if he gets it first it will hospitalize him and then me. This will take such a load off his mind. Hugs

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      • YAY!! My second shot is scheduled for the 23rd, the “other-half” gets his tomorrow (11th). But we still intend to be careful. Various news articles say vaccinated people can do certain things safely, but are still encouraging masks because of the variants.

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        • Hello Nan. Congratulations. That is grand. I am so impressed with the way Biden’s administration has handled this. Did you see that he who was before wants to get all the credit even though the two first vaccines were not created with US funds. More chest pounding look at me please from the orange man child. Hugs

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